Wednesday, October 12, 2016

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry Threatens Retaliation Against Russian Meddling In The US Election

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry. REUTERS/Jacquelyn Martin/Pool

Washington Examiner: Kerry threatens retaliation for Russian meddling in US election

Secretary of State John Kerry promised that the United States would retaliate against Russian President Vladimir Putin's attempts to meddle in the American presidential election.

"We released this information to put the people doing it on a notice that they're not, quote, 'getting away with it' for free, as well as to put states on notice that we're serious when we say they need to take every measure possible to guarantee the integrity of our elections," Kerry said Monday at The Internet Association's Virtuous Cycle Conference. "And we will and can respond in ways that we choose to at the time of our choice."

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Update: U.S. Secretary Of State John Kerry's Remarks at the Virtuous Circle Conference (US State Department).

WNU Editor: The best part of this post is that John Kerry himself is admiting that the U.S. .... has tried to "affect outcomes" of foreign elections, but he also argued for a distinction between American information-sharing and direct hacks.

10 comments:

C-Low said...

This sudden anti Russia especially the hacking our voter systems rhetoric is very odd coming from the dems. I know its tin foil hat stuff but I wonder if this is not staging in case they fail at influencing the election results to their likening. There is voter fraud in the US but at best it is regional and limited by how much it sway results maybe a few points. I wonder if this all out push by the establishment fails if this is their emergency fall back option. Trump wins they declare the vote void blaming Russian hacking and referencing the polls as basis. With the repub leadership backing, media backing, it would be one hell of a mess.

Miguel LM said...

So you (WMU Russian) are comparing US action in the 50s in Iran vs Russia in 2016?

Big lol.

So now you are supporting a cyber crime, i guess for me isnt new because you support the terrorist regime of Putin.

A Wolf in sheep's clothing

War News Updates Editor said...

Liguel LM. I am not comparing anything. I am just quoting what US Secretary of State John Kerry said.

Miguel LM said...

In these case (US elections) we are talking about a Crime. Its called cyber crime / hacking that is illegal. All comments should be 1: it was a crime 2: discuss or not the content of the info.

I dont care if it was a cyber crime, if it was China or Russia or John Do because i have nothing to do with that neither i have interest in that info.

But if we are going to make a public comment, the first thing that we should say/write is that we cant admit that all is acceptable to get infos, not when the info was obtained by doing a crime.

B.Poster said...

C-Low,

That is a very interesting analysis. We shall see if you are on to something.

As I predicted when Mr. Trump got the nomination, he would be the next POTUS. As with any prediction, if new facts come to light, a sensible person would be expected to reevaluate and perhaps alter the initial prediction.

While the prediction currently remains unchanged, I am less bullish on it than I was. At the time I assumed, 1.)the Republican leadership and the "never Trump" personnel would do what sensible people do when faced with a bad situation for them. Swallow hard, grit their teeth, perhaps scream and cuss, whine for a little while about the unfairness of life or whatever, perhaps pound some sand, clench their fists, and at the end of the day make the least bad chose for them and their interest. This has not happened to the degree I expected. 2.)Mr. Trump and the RNC would develop a so called "ground game." This hasn't happened to the degree I expected. 3.)Mr. Trump would learn to control his tongue/twitter fingers. This has not really happened. 4.)Mr. Trump would learn to avoid being distracted by side issues and instead focus on the issues like a laser. While there has been progress here it has been slow and inconsistent. Had he simply done this alone he would likely be way ahead right now, as his stances on the issues are 100% winners. 5.)While perhaps I should have anticipated the release of the crude, awful, and indefensible things Mr. Trump said in 2005 especially given his track record, I did not. While his debate performance along with the apology likely regained some of the "base" that he lost at the time, he may have permanently lost "independents" that would be needed to wind the general election.

With that said I have a strong hunch that the internal polls of team Clinton are painting a much less certain picture than the media published polls are. I suspect this for the following reasons. 1.)People are reluctant to say they support team Trump out of legitimate fear of being attacked by hoodlums. 2.)People have been threatened by job loss and loss of career advancement for publically supporting Mr. Trump. I live in a very, very "red state" and this is going on in extremely large numbers. I can only imagine what is happening in "swing states." The number is quite large here. Is it elsewhere and would it be enough for team Trump to prevail. As stated, this is a hunch perhaps it is incorrect.

What you suggest may well be the fall back position of team Clinton, the media, and Republican leadership. I would not put such past them especially since I think it likely the polls put out for public consumption paint a much better picture for team Clinton than the real one. If so, what an extraordinarily foolish thing to do on the part of the Democrats as it further inflames conflict with arguably the most powerful country in the world whose assistance we are likely to need in the future if we wish to accomplish anything constructive and all for a spectacularly short term gain that would very quickly be lost anyway.

RRH said...

When Washington shoveled $5 billion, 100 dozen cookies, and a f-k the EU into a Nazi coup in Kiev, openly calls through the NED for the removal of the Russian head of state, supplies and runs political (and close air) cover for crimal gangs of "regime change" psychopaths, anything they have to say about Russia or anyone else "influencing" their political process is too much to bear. It is the equivalent of the schoolyard bully who has been rolling other kids for their lunch money daily crying to the teachers after an unwilling target punched his teeth in.

RRH said...

When Washington shoveled $5 billion, 100 dozen cookies, and a f-k the EU into a Nazi coup in Kiev, openly calls through the NED for the removal of the Russian head of state, supplies and runs political (and close air) cover for crimal gangs of "regime change" psychopaths, anything they have to say about Russia or anyone else "influencing" their political process is too much to bear. It is the equivalent of the schoolyard bully who has been rolling other kids for their lunch money daily crying to the teachers after an unwilling target punched his teeth in.

Jay Farquharson said...

LMAO

>>Republicans have started warning their increasingly ostracized nominee to stop stoking his supporters with claims that the 2016 election will be stolen, daring him to show proof or put a lid on it.
“Somebody claiming in the election, ‘I was defrauded,’ that isn’t going to cut it,” said former Sen. Kit Bond, a Missouri Republican who earlier in the campaign endorsed Jeb Bush and then Marco Rubio. “They’re going to have to say how, where, why, when.”

“I don’t think leading candidates for the presidency should undercut the process unless you have a really good reason,” Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who gained little support for his own 2016 White House run, told POLITICO.<<

Republican's are telling Trump to STFU on the "hacked" grift,

Beacuse it completely blows up their 50 Voter Supression grift.

B.Poster said...

I wonder should Mr. Trump win and then the election be declared void citing the pre election polls as evidence will these Republican leaders require the same kind of standards of proof. I'm skeptical that they will require anything close "how, where, why, and when."

Should Mr. Trump lose his supporters will continue going to work, taking care of their families etc. Even if they wanted to allege voter fraud they lack the type of organization or unity of goals to do this.

If team Clinton loses, will she and her team accept the results? Furthermore with much of the international community seeming to be behind team Clinton will this further encourage team Clinton to not accept the results should they lose?

It is cause for concern. Such turmoil certainly would not be helpful to America's economy or it's standing in the world. Such a thing would serve to hasten the inevitable end of the US dollar as world reserve currency and ensure a "hard landing" when it does happen.

Young Communist said...

Kerry admissions on US influences on foreign elections, trying to the same time to justify that with terms like "information-sharing" against hacking, is a clear example on a big contradictions among democracies: the double standards.

The democratic influences involve corruption (a crime), stole of internet account and spyware betraying privacy laws (another crime), insider trading and financial frauds(again), destabilization of nations security and many other crimes.

When a non-aligned dictatorial country make this type of dirty stuff the blame among mass-media and official diplomacy is fast and general, leading to reactions like isolation, sanctions, coup or war. Maybe with condemnations of ONU.
When democracies of NATO make the same type of dirty stuff, nothing happens, despite some of internal protest, each year more less.
Admitting crimes but continue with those with impunity only lead to generate an hubris that ruin the democracy itself.
And is very dangerous.

It seem the West is in search of another Hitler, someone useful to concentrate the hate of all hiding the hypocrisy of the system at the same time.