Pilots assigned to the USS George H. W. Bush walk across the flight deck. (U.S. Navy/Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Tony Curtis)
FOX News: 3 sailors assigned to USS George H.W. Bush commit suicide in same week
Three Navy sailors assigned to the USS George H.W. Bush aircraft carrier committed suicide last week in separate, unrelated incidents, officials announced Monday.
“It is with a heavy heart that I can confirm the loss of three Sailors last week in separate, unrelated incidents from apparent suicide. My heart is broken,” Capt. Sean Bailey, the carrier’s commanding officer, wrote in the announcement.
Bailey said the recent deaths marked the third, fourth and fifth crew members of the carrier to take their own lives in the last two years.
None of the deaths occurred on the carrier, which is docked at the Norfolk Naval Shipyard, in Virginia, for repairs, according to Navy Times.
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WNU Editor: There is something terribly wrong here. This is clearly not a happy crew. And there are four suicides being investigated, not three .... Investigators probing four suicides involving carrier crew (Navy Times).
More News On 3 U.S. Navy Sailors Stationed Aboard USS George H.W. Bush Dying By Suicide Last Week
Three Navy sailors assigned to the USS George H.W. Bush aircraft carrier kill themselves in one week in separate incidents, officials reveal -- Daily Mail
3 sailors assigned to the USS George H.W. Bush died by suicide last week -- Task & Purpose
3 Navy Sailors Stationed Aboard USS George H.W. Bush Died by Suicide Last Week, Four Since July -- Newsweek
3 Navy sailors assigned to USS George H.W. Bush kill themselves in a week -- NYPost
USS George H.W. Bush CO Acknowledges String of Suicides -- USNI News
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RIP
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It's kind of unexpected. ..hmmm WNU which Military service (eg navy army airforce) see highest rates of suicide?
It's really sad either way but it seems a lot for one ship ...think in total there have been 5 or 6 of crew assigned to this ship who committed suicide but most were not on the ship during
Scuttlebut will tell you if it was the captain's or the crew's fault. Personally, I blame Democrats.
You need to place people in the Chief's mess, the 1st class 'mess', among the crew ,and the O club and/or the bars they hang out. It might take a month.
NCIS is not trained to investigate this. They need to go to the east coast and talk to The Foundation.
Suicides have epidemic aspect to them. It is a fact about humans. Bell ringing at BUDS would also clue you in to this.
Retention rates are also a measure of the stresses. The Navy has the highest turnover rate.
Actually, I think the brass (or anyone) are playing whack-a-mole when they try to shape the turnover rate. They need to look at big picture attrition rate. That is not to say that these people are dumb. Far from it. They think outside of the box. Going back decades (maybe over 1/2 a century) they looked at off duty attrition due to crime in the US, for example.
We do not know what divisions or departments these sailors are form. We do not know their marital status, rank, rate of many other things we would need to know for a portrait to get to understand them. Mr. Gerren Keith Gaynor of Foxnews did not look at the op tempo. Most people in his profession would not do so that is mostly not on him.
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Endless possible causes starting with recruitment standards. Did these men come into the service with serious mental health issues? Is the Navy screening for those issues prior to recruitment?
A lot of people fallout within the 1st year or two. Many of the others would leave at the end of four years.
It is worth looking into. Rates (ASVAB scores) time in service marital status and other things would tell you a lot. They would get you an R-squared of say 60% of more, but I doubt that it would get you a score of better than 90. If it did call BS.
I have seen people from really bad backgrounds do well. I saw two young men from the same inner city. One did well and kept advancing, was married, and had the world by the tail. The other bought the Democrat identity politics line. They both were in the same division and so the same education.
I expect the increased tempo of the last decade is a factor.
What disturbs me is that suicide is pretty much a solitary decision. There can be signs of a problem but training to recognize them wasn't an MOS when I was in and I doubt much has changed decades later.
Roger,
There is more outreach than there was during the Vietnam war.
Did you have any suicide awareness training in your time in the military 40 years ago?
Get rid of the worthless females who are destroying morale.
Interesting discussion and information on suicides in the military and in the Veteran populations as in 20 suicides per day for the latter.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/08/01/pentagon-reports-record-number-suicides.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_veteran_suicide
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