Residents in the Russian region of Samara gathered on January 3 to mourn the loss of local soldiers killed in one of Ukraine's deadliest defensive strikes as Moscow put the blame on its own soldiers for using their mobile phones, which might have provided the data Ukraine used to locate them.
Russia's Defense Ministry said 89 soldiers were killed when Ukraine launched the artillery attack on December 31 on the Moscow-controlled town of Makiyivka in the Donetsk region.
The ministry had put the figure at 63 a day earlier. Ukraine's military has claimed about 500 soldiers were killed or wounded in the attack. RFE/RL is unable to confirm either side's data.
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WNU Editor: These soldiers are not suppose to have cellphones. Clearly a failure of command.
Here is how a Russian soldier gave away his position with geotagged social media posts .... Russian soldier gave away his position with geotagged social media posts (Task & Purpose).
Russia's Defense Ministry Says Death Toll From Ukraine HIMAR Strike Risen To 89 Soldiers. Blames Use Of Cellphones For Revealing Location
Russian military issues update on deadly Ukrainian strike -- RT
Use of phones is cause of tragedy in Makeyevka — Russian Defense Ministry -- TASS
Russia says 89 troops were killed in New Year's attack, blames use of mobile phones -- Reuters
Makiivka: Russia blames missile attack on troops' phone use -- BBC
Use Of Cellphones By Troops 'Main Reason' For Makiivka Losses: Russian Ministry -- AFP
Death toll in Makeyevka increases to 89 — Russian Defense Ministry -- TASS
Looking for somerhing to blame, the cellphone!
ReplyDeleteUkrainians are using cellphones too
more than Russian soldiers uses a cellphone.
seen more ukranian cellphone videos than Russian.
I had seen lots of deatroyed Russian military equipment.
All some one had to do was see that the Russians were using the school as a barracks. That is all an Ukrainian spec ops or patriot had to text. They did not have to give coordinates. The Ukraine already have the coordinates through proper city planning or satellites.
ReplyDeleteThe use of the school as a barracks could have been given away by analysis of signal traffic and/or satellite photos seeing vehicle traffic patterns. Cell phones do help. However taking away cellphones by itself will not solve the problem.
The Russians will have replacement for the KIA and WIA. How good they will be is debatable. Here is the kicker. A lot of officers died in that attack. So you replace the grunts, how will the officers be replaced? With out good offices the debatable replacements will be even more debatable as effective soldiers.
Russia has tried using officers from support like logistics to command infantry. Those officers do not like the idea. It is debatable about how good of a solution that is.
ReplyDeleteThe soldiers gave away their own position? Maybe.
It is also a convenient way for the government to deflect blame.
Maybe the Russians could set up a Mars station like a rabbit warren.
The geotagging explanation makes perfect sense.
ReplyDeleteThe Yavoriv barracks which were hit in cruise missile strike on March 13 killed over 200 and it was the result of sloppy western mercs posting their romantic war tiktoks with easily identifiable geo-markers. In this event the soldier literally posted a selfie in front of the country club's front sign.