BBC: Skripal poisoning: Putin denounces ex-spy as 'scumbag'
Russian President Vladimir Putin has labelled poisoned ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal a "traitor" and a "scumbag".
In a speech, he complained that the media were treating Mr Skripal as "some kind of human rights defender", insisting he had betrayed his country.
Mr Skripal and his daughter survived an attack in Salisbury, which the UK says was carried out by two agents of Russian military intelligence.
But a British woman died in another poisoning that police say was linked.
UK authorities believe Mr Skripal's door in the southern English city was targeted with the nerve agent Novichok.
It was sprayed from a modified perfume bottle that was later picked up and given to Dawn Sturgess, who died in July, they say.
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WNU Editor: This case is clearly irking the Russian President. There is probably more to this story than what we know, and it is causing headaches in the Kremlin for Putin to lash out like this.
More News On Russian President Putin Denouncing Ex-Russian Spy Sergei Skripal As A "Traitor" And A "Scumbag"
Skripal is a ‘traitor & scum,’ not some rights activist – Putin -- RT
Putin: Skripal Not Rights Defender, But 'Traitor' and 'Scumbag' (VIDEO) -- Sputnik
'He's a scumbag': Putin brands ex-spy Sergei Skripal a 'traitor' and poison victim Dawn Sturgess 'some homeless person' as he claims yet again the Kremlin had nothing to do with Salisbury attack -- Daily Mail
Putin dismisses Russian ex-spy as "scumbag" traitor - CBS/AP
Putin calls poisoned ex-spy Skripal a scumbag and traitor -- Reuters
'He's a scumbag' Vladimir Putin brands Sergei Skripal a ‘traitor’ in furious attack on poisoned spy -- The SUN
It is now very clear that the HIT ORDER was given by the terrorist Putin.
ReplyDeleteWhen the story first broke, I found it far fetched to put the blame on Putin. I thought the whole thing stunk. These new revalations have changed my mind. Its definitely looking as if the Kremlin was behind this. That being said, some very big line were crossed.
ReplyDeleteI still find it hard to believe the Kremlin was behind this. As I have pointed out elsewhere multiple times, motive and opportunity just aren't there. The most likely culprits would be those associated with former Soviet Republics, Eastern Bloc countries, or Russian government personnel acting outside of the purview of official leadership. If the latter is the case, this means the Russian leadership doesn't have good control over this stuff or knowledge of how to make it. As such, I tend to go with the most likely suspects being those associated with former Soviet Republics or Eastern Bloc countries.
ReplyDeleteThen the British authorities had to spend weeks going through survellience tapes. It's as though they formed a narrative before an investigation could have possibly been conducted and now needed to search for the evidence to fit the narrative. They nabbed themselves a couple of pot smoking, prostitute chasing tourists!! This has got to be extremely demoralizing for law enforcement officials.
As to Putin's statement, what to make of it assuming he made it which for now I will assume he did. 1.)A defector regardless who they defect from is a traitor to the entity they defected from. Those who did not defect would not be expected to view them favorably. I know how I feel about Edward Snowden for example. 2.)By defecting they betrayed someone. As a wise person explained and I have found to be true, if he lies to someone else he can lie to you. If you have to buy his loyalty, he can sell you out for a higher bid. As such, defectors, while valuable, should never be a primary source for anything. They can have useful utility in corroborating things.
Also, Putin tends to be brash and "speak off the cuff." Perhaps this is why he made this statement at this time. Another possibility is he appears to enjoy tweaking the "western" media.
Another problem we have with blind trust is the personnel making the claims don't have a good track record. They are essentially using this situation to take what is essentially Cold War 2, douse it with more gasoline, and throw more matches on the fire. "Just trust us" or "because we said so" is not going to be enough. Actual evidence will need to be presented as well as sources and methods on how they reached their conclusions.
Putin Tells Trump: 'Blame the Guy in the Mirror for High Oil Prices'
ReplyDeleteТоварищ. Скажите приятные вещи о нашем лидере и скажите этим немым янки следовать нашему примеру, потому что мы скоро восстановим нашу утраченную славу, когда мы правили и поработили так много долтов, чтобы сделать наши ставки.
ReplyDeleteAh the "Google" translator is back (3:46) absolutely fabulous. I expect a Lapides like retort any moment!
ReplyDeletePoster,
ReplyDeleteKind of a short trip to support the working ladies and smoke a reefer. Reefer. Right out of one of my Mad magazines from the mid 50's.
Grampa Smith
Fred,
ReplyDeleteActually sanctioning Russia was a terrible idea from the start. I patiently pointed this out from the get go. Countries as influential and as important to the oil and gas market simply cannot be successfully dealt with in this manner. So, yes this is Trump's fault in the sense that he not only continued the misguide policies of the previous Administration but has doubled down and even triple downed on them. As such, the suggestion that Trump is to blame is not entirely an unreasonable one.
It's long past time for policy changes toward Russia that recognize geo political reality. When in a hole, the first order of business is to stop digging. The current policies have long been undermining our national security by putting us in the crosshairs of arguably the world's most powerful military force and for no good reason. Now these policies are causing Americans economic pain on top of this.
Adding insult to injury the policies of sanctioning Russia will have to be abandoned at some point making us look even stupider than we already do. The CEO of Shell stated that his company would have to abide by them. He said this as a sop to US leaders hoping they'd be smart enough to take an opportunity to save face. Given that the sanctions were imposed under less than justified pretenses and added to under even more questionable circumstances, it is entirely possible that we may owe reparations to the Russian people for the damage caused for this at some point. When in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!
Also, better relations with Russia mean possible help in areas where we need it like Iran and North Korea. There's plenty of upside absent downside risks. We will need to maintain a robust nuclear deterrent however assuming we still have one.
Roger,
ReplyDeleteWhile touring a place, some people do these things. It's kind of a variation of "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas." Furthermore many men who drink will tend to drink more when they are away from home on vacation. As such, the trip is not taken to smoke the reefer or to "support the working ladies," but this can be and often is a part of it. While I have not done this personally nor would I, some men have been known to engage in extra circular activities with the local gals while the wife or significant other is away.
If these men were the competent assains they are made out to be, they'd have been in and out undetected by the standard security procedures used by British authorities and would not have wasted time on weed and prostitutes. While possible, it seems highly improbable they'd have done so. Now, if these are rogue operatives operating outside of official orders, perhaps this is possible. Right now the most likely culprits seem to be 1.)personnel from former Soviet or Eastern Bloc countries or 2.)rogue Russian agents. I tend to discount 2 as I would certainly hope Russian leadership is more competent than this. This would mean that highly dangerous materials and/or the know how to manufacture has slipped from their control. Tank you for the reply. Work is calling. Gotta go now.
I love weed, aka reefer, aka pot
ReplyDeletebefore the snark: I have a license to use it in my state for medical purposes
Lapides,
ReplyDelete" I have a license to use it in my state for medical purposes" for obvious reasons.