Saturday, July 8, 2023

The Russia - Ukraine War Has Become An ‘AI Warfare’ Testing Ground

 

Global Times: How US military, tech firms profit from Russia-Ukraine conflict by turning it into an ‘AI warfare’ testing ground 

The Russia-Ukraine conflict, having gone on for 17 months, seems to show no sign of letting up in a short time. Last month, a Bloomberg story shared how a 23-year-old US entrepreneur, Blake Resnick, made money through donations, and by selling his drones to Ukraine, thereby ballooning his net worth to more than $100 million. 

Ukraine "has become a proving ground for startups looking to showcase their latest technologies," commented the story titled Newly rich US defense tech titans seek fresh fortunes in Ukraine.  

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The Russia - Ukraine War Has Become An ‘AI Warfare’ Testing Ground  

US Tech Firms ‘Win Big’ From Ukraine War, Turn The Region Into A Testing Ground For AI Warfare – Chinese Media -- EurAsian Times 

Ukraine gained advantage in war against Putin with custom-built AI: 'unprecedented testing ground' -- FOX News  

How the Russia Ukraine war is supercharging AI warfare -- 4 News  

Game changers of the technological war -- The New Voice of Ukraine

17 comments:

Ron said...

I went into the Corp on the buddy system with my best friend. I got out and he made a career. He became a scout sniper with 7 combat pumps. He was the chief instructor at the second marine Division's Scout Sniper school for a bit. The marines worked their infantry folk very very heavy on map and compass navigation. In one of the competitions against other Sniper teams. An army team had their shiny new GPS. It wouldn't work for them and they were completely fooked up. (This was in the mid 90's). Needless to say, all of this fancy crap works good when war is a played like a game like it is in Ukraine/Syria/iraq ect. But when total war arrives, none of this expensive shit is gonna work. neither will the lights in my house or my computer or cell phone. Power and communications will be the first casualty.

So, they will spend our monies, have their little toys and play tit for tat with various enemies. just don't cross the line into total war.

Anonymous said...

Biden Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen Blasted for Repeatedly Bowing to Her Chinese Counterpart in Beijing (VIDEO)

Yellen is a clown.


She may have been at one time PhD material. that time has long since past decades ago.

Anonymous said...

In response to the comment above:

AI is already playing havoc via loitering munitions and it's not like it's any more expensive than manually controlled versions.

Specifically with the ai-enabled Lancet drones, a single operator sends up 4-16 drones in the air at once and they just circle a designated area and watch for 4-5 hours. During this time nothing is transmitted between vehicle and operator to make electronic warfare impossible. They return to friendly territory after their recording time is complete and, once overhead, re-establish communication with the operator and upload all the data from their scanning period.

The operators terminal uses a much more powerful machine learning algorithm to pick out targets from the data, and it's incomparably better at finding them than a human is. Where the human eye just sees a landscape of brown and green smudges, the AI sees patterns in the movements of pixels. It determines high traffic trails and areas, possible dugout/trench entrances and exits, irregular shadow projections, recognizable vehicle silhouettes, etc.

The human operator selects a target from a list for each of his drones, locks them in to the onboard memory (to render jamming ineffective) and sends them off again. The onboard AI then waits until it detects movement at it's designated target and dives in.

I guess the biggest difference between now and your anecdote regarding early GPS is that this "high tech software" can be run completely locally on a $100 cpu and it doesn't rely on huge, vulnerable infrastructure platforms like the GPS satellite network.

Anonymous said...

Ron @11:59 PM, too bad the Corps shut down the regular Scout-Sniper program, all those SS tattoos were getting the Commandant down.

Swarming and AI have their roots in Soviet P-700 Granit missiles using swarming technology and American GM/UGM-109B Tomahawk Anti-Ship Missile (TASM) using independent hunting mode (early pattern-matching system) in the 1970s/80s. British Brimstone swarms in independent attack mode are probably being used by Ukraine today. AI and swarming warfare is decades old.

The real issue here is the AI learning dataset. Prior to Ukraine, learning datasets came from a few large military training exercises. Now huge new high intensity warfare learning datasets are available to NATO because NATO and Ukraine are sharing data. The value of these datasets alone could make the continuing war worthwhile to NATO. When NATO talks about "the best 100 billion we ever spent", this is what they are really talking about -- improved kill chains for high intensity warfare based on superior large learning datasets.

If China can't beg borrow or steal these datasets, they are seriously disadvantaged.

Anonymous said...

In some ways, all conflicts are studies of the next conflict.

Anonymous said...


France needs to be run by AI or Putin.

Macron is too stupid (thus the need for AI) or too cowardly to call things as they are.

"French President Blames ‘Video Games’ Instead of ‘Islam’ for Riots"

Anonymous said...

Russia could have been part of NATO, acted decently and started calling the shots.

But that is a little too clever for the dudes at the Kremlin or most people worldwide really.

Anonymous said...

What'samatta Ching-Chong? Is that more of a Nip thing?

Anonymous said...

Uh they were never invited despite 90s pleasantries

Anonymous said...

Thank you for some of your responses. I have learned. Ron

Anonymous said...

"Uh they were never invited despite 90s pleasantries"

They could have asked.

Also, before and during asking, you can wage public relations campaign.

Communications is a two way street. Is Russia supposed to be passive like an ingenue?

Some like Merkel would have supported Russia joining NATO. Is that supposition wrong?

The 90s? The Clintons can be bought. They were bought. They might not sell their mother or their daughter, but pretty much everything else is fair game.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for your service.

However, you clearly have never ever seen this tech in real life. If you had, you’d be speechless.

Your anecdote about GPS before Google was founded is totally worthless.

Son of Fazman said...

Why the Ukraine Counteroffensive Is Such Slow Going -

Anonymous said...

The same money that controls the western media narrative on everything right and wrong comments are yours how does it go??? ''he who has ears let him listen''

Anonymous said...

Simple. They are idiots who believed American advisors on how good they are and how bad the Russians are..

Anonymous said...

Son of Fazman. Your Pa is going to give you a good spanking.

Anonymous said...

Son of Fazman might be 80 some years old. It has no living Pa.