Saturday, July 8, 2023

Ukraine's Population Is Collapsing

Figure 1. Size of the Ukrainian population (in thousand persons at the beginning of each year) 

Wilson Center: Ukraine’s Demography in the Second Year of the Full-Fledged War 

The Ukrainian demographic situation is an incredibly complex issue. Simply raising the population question requires that we first clarify our frame of reference. Are we asking about the Ukrainian population living within Ukraine’s internationally recognized borders, the so-called 1991 borders? Or about the Ukrainian population inhabiting the territory within the 1991 borders but without Crimea and Sevastopol (this is the area within which the State Statistics Service of Ukraine gathered information in 2015–2021)? Or about the population of both the territories controlled by the Ukrainian authorities before the start of the full-scale Russian aggression (the so-called 2022 borders) and the non-government-controlled lands? Or about the remaining population living on the territory controlled by the Ukrainian authorities after the start of the Russian full-scale invasion, and if so, in which month, since the current situation is highly unstable?  

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Update: Ukraine’s population close to half level of 1991 – think tank (RT)  

WNU Editor: And the forecast for the future is even more grim .... Ukraine’s population close to half level of 1991 – think tank (Reuters).

20 comments:

  1. Demographics of Russia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia

    Demographics are not good for Russia either.

    Russia had more people in 1989 than now.

    The birth rate has been below replacement rate for 30 maybe 40 years.

    But it gets worse. What do you want to bet more of whatever births their are are mainly Muslim and not Orthodox.

    Plus Russia picked up 5 million people when they swallowed Donbas and Crimea. So the 1960s to now comparison is worse than it looks



    "Starting in February 2022, in connection with the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, a new flow of political emigration began, associated with disagreement with the government.[4][5][6] Following the announcement of mobilization on 21 September 2022, a huge surge in emigration from Russia occurred. Tickets to Armenia, Turkey, and Azerbaijan significantly increased, and car queues were formed at the border with Finland, Mongolia, and Kazakhstan.[7][8][9]"


    Very bad look on your part WNU.

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  2. The same can be said for demographics world wide

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  3. Russia is shrinking. The US is not.

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  4. 10:24

    Yes you can say that. Then again you can flip it around and say

    The Russians gained over 3 million Ukies as citizens as immigrant refugees and that is not counting the newly gained populations in Crimea , the Donbass or the other gained territories.

    You can also say, to all those who fled. Good riddance.

    They are probably
    europhiles and Atlanticists. Most likely highly liberal progressive types who would want no more than for Russia to turn into "The Yeltsin years" or Weimar 3.0.
    (the current US being Weimar 2.0)

    Just like the Ukrainian culture is being poisoned by the LBGTq creeps today ....that's what these weirdos call progress.

    The ukies are btw suffering a lot more than the Russians. It will probably take 100 years for them to return to any type of normality. They will remain a failed state and a ward of the west for a long time to come.

    Is that the ukies fault? Not entirely. The coup of 2014 was funded and instigated by the USA.

    After the coup, the usa then poored even more money and bribes into the Ukrainian system to turn public opinion and create the animosity between the Russians and Ukrainians.

    The Americans are just as responsible for this war.


    The US has turned into a blood sucking vampire. It will one day reap the evil it has sown.

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  5. "The Americans are just as responsible for this war."

    Freudian slip there old boy.

    The US did not send tanks over the border. Russia did. Not hard to understand unless you are a troll and a dumb one at that.

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    US did not send tanks over the border. Russia did.

    Nice try.

    Are you saying the USA is not an accomplice to this tragedy, if not the primary instigator?

    Did not send tanks? No they just sent lots of money, military support and political support. The not just added gasoline to the fire, but lite the match.

    So the russians sent tanks? Point out the obvious here. But the real question is why?

    Americans have a habit of doing things like that.... you know like Syria, Iraq, Pamama, Grenada, Somalia, Bosnia, Libya...you get the idea

    Did you fail history class or is this just the stupid "one liner" they make you push? You cubicle info ops folks are obvious and blatant..

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  7. Primary instigator is and was Russia. Period. FULL STOP!

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  8. Amazing how the Americans went into Grenada and Panama and were out in a jiffy. They did not stay.

    Noriega was running cover for Drug cartels.

    Grenada? You fail to mention coups executions of high officials, etc.

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  9. No
    But thank you. You just proved my point.

    You invalidated that stupid line of reasoning
    which is supposed to be a stand alone sufficient.

    '"Well the Russians invaded And that is reason enough"

    You have just shown and agreed how stupid that line of reasoning is. That is...

    There are reasons why nations do things.

    Now since we solved that problem and determined that simple pronouncements are iidiotic .
    Now we go on to the harder questions. Was the "why" they invaded justifiable?

    You GS info guys are not given detailed background briefs? You are not educated or instructed on historical reference points in time?

    Info ops is not what it used to be. I guess you gents just parrot what they tell you.


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  10. Russia invaded because Russian was not an official second language. That alone should guarantee capitol punishment for Putin, his cronies and supporters like you. Would you like the chair, hanging or firing squad?

    The US and Western Europe has bone to pick when Andropov set out to undermine the West with the Green movement in the late 1960s. Bone t pick as in all out war. Laugh fuzzball and think it won't happen. it will.


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  11. Russia invaded because Putin had a wet dream.

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  12. Your reply are getting more and more erratic. Is that what they told you at your background brief , that Russia invaded because of language restrictions? And you believed them? Really?

    Tell them that you know better. Tell them you want to know the truth about Valarie Nulland and the Mandan uprising. Tell them you want to stop lying to people. That you all are suppose to be the good guys.

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  13. Your replies are getting more and more childish and trollish.

    WNU for one mentioned language in particular.

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  14. But that was not the main reason for the invasion.
    So do not try to muddy the water with nonsence.

    You hate WNU and now you are using

    " this Russian troll sympathizer"

    as a source?

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  15. And another nonsense response by 4:10

    Poor tot must be paid by the word and/or post


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  16. No he is just keeping the knuckle heads straight when they try to slime out of what they said.

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  17. The only slime here are Russian trolls.

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  18. The only trolls present are the ones in your head

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  19. Do you ever write anything negative about Russia or your lover Putin? Didn’t think so…

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  20. Do you ever write anything negative about America or your lover Biden? Didn’t think so

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