Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskiy speaks with European Union Foreign Policy Chief Josep Borrell. Photo: Ukrainian Presidential Press Service/Handout via Reuters
* Zelensky said that Ukraine is capable of winning this confrontation, but needs the cooperation of its allies
* Ukraine wants to be a member of the EU, and EU officials encouraged that course even though it could take years amid a war of attrition with no end in sight
Some of Europe’s top diplomats gathered on Monday in Kyiv in a display of support for Ukraine’s fight against Russia’s invasion as signs emerge of political strain in Europe and the United States over the 19-month-old war.
European Union foreign ministers converged on the Ukrainian capital for an unannounced informal meeting that officials said would review the bloc’s support for Ukraine and discuss Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s proposed peace formula.
EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said the foreign ministers’ first joint meeting outside EU borders signalled that the 27-nation bloc’s support is “unwavering,” and underscored the EU’s commitment to Ukraine.
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WNU Editor: Support for the war in the West is declining. Ukraine's counteroffensive has not achieved any of its strategic goals, and in the process they lost tens of thousands of soldiers and thousands of pieces of equipment. And there are now growing fears that if Europe experiences a cold winter, the energy shock to the EU from even hogher energy prices will completely undermine public support for the war.
As a result of these developments numerous EU and NATO meetings on the war have been slated for this week. Today's gathering of EU foreign ministers in Kyiv is the start of this process .... Ukraine confident of broad support as EU ministers convene in Kyiv (Reuters). NATO leaders and top generals are to meet later in the week.
What does this all mean?
I think there is a growing realization in the West that Ukraine is lacking the means and resources to counter the Russian army, and that anew strategy and commitment is necessary. I know in Ukraine many have to come to that conclusion in the past month .... NATO-trained Ukrainian recruits admit they're being overpowered by Russia's battle-hardened troops in the northern sector, Kyiv Independent reports (Business Insider).
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"The first Leopard 2A4 which was damaged at the front was completely repaired in Poland and sent back to Ukraine"
Bulgaria closes the border to the entry of cars registered in ruZZia.
Yevgeny Prigozhin’s son has reportedly taken over “command” of the Wagner Group and is negotiating with Moscow on returning its fighters to the war in Ukraine, leading military analysts have said. << Ukraine must be safer than Africa.
"The list of special Moscow electricity consumers approved by Sergei Sobyanin includes addresses where employees of secret agencies are registered"
mo ded orks coming right up!
Russia attacks residential town of Druzhba (Friendship) in Sumy Oblast with Cluster Munitions. Several other villages near Russia's Bryansk Oblast also attacked.
I swear to god. This is fucking nonsense.
So Ukraine should not have cluster munitions, but russia which has been using them form the start can. Not onlyusing them, but using them on civilians.
Ruzzia land of the orks.
Underground school being built in Kharkiv, as Russian attacks continue.
why? because russians attack school kids
they get their jollies off
Russian officer escaped to the Ukrainian side with 11 of his fellow servicemen, GUR reports.
Seems about right.
do not tell the persona. there is an outside change the persona could learn something.
A group of Russian servicemen recorded this video before being sent by Putin into a meat assault in Klischiivka, Bakhmut direction.
The men, counting 10 members plus 5 in support, were told to occupy a residential area in Klischiivka, where Ukrainian superiority was tenfold, in addition to firepower from Leopard tanks.
They added that in Klischiivka, Russians already lost 1000-1200 soldiers senselessly.
the one in the t-shirt seems retardish. On review he is normal, but extremely depressed. He is not in control of his life and he is being wasted by the Moscovian upper class.
WNU is Moscovian upper class.
Ukrainian Media: "A pilot of the Russian National Guard (Rosgvardia) with the call sign "Havre" went on a vacation to the UAE and surrendered himself at the US embassy.
The pilot with the surname "Havrynchenko" said that he no longer wanted to fight against Ukraine and that he was ready to cooperate with the United States.
OTD in 1951 second wave deportations of Operation Osen began. In this wave, 16400 Lithuanians were forcibly deported to Siberia as USSR continued to "liberate them from fascism" 6 years after WW2 ended
they had to make room to import wussians, so WNU can compwain dat wussians are being discwiminated against!
New Flash for WNU
If Gaetz is booted from Congress figure that the War will go on.
I know how much that deflates you. Go out and by yourself some sildenafil to make up for it,
DIA budget must've gotten slashed and now the entire info-op is one dude reposting a dozen ukronazi telegram conspiracies in a row.
Yeah, conspiracies.
Havrynchenko never defected
Ukraine is not building schools underground.
12:08 I love you, the check is in the mail and I won't ...
Once again, the snippets of doom that add up to a drivel of inconsequential occurrences, while significant gains and loses are ignored.
The series above are not really significant. Do any of them determine a change in the prevailing trend?
No.
What is the prevailing trend?
Ukrainian massive losses and not enough equipment.
Russians in the defense
And some folks here beating their chests over news out of the Ukie MoD which 9 times out of 10 is false.
270,000+ Russians soldiers who are KIA or WIA and will never see another battlefield.
All is okay so long as 1:34 can remain a keyboard warrior and not be a mobik.
here you go.
I was not lying this is from a huge Ukrainian supporter
-----Wallace comments Start.
Ben Wallace, the former Secretary of State for Defence of the UK, writes in the Telegraph:
Putin is desperately grasping at the final two things that can save him – time and the splitting of the international community. Britain can do something about both. We must help Ukraine maintain its momentum – and that will require more munitions, ATACMSs and Storm Shadows. And the best way to keep the international community together is the demonstration of success.
Ukraine can also play its part. The average age of the soldiers at the front is over 40. I understand President Zelensky’s desire to preserve the young for the future, but the fact is that Russia is mobilising the whole country by stealth. Putin knows a pause will hand him time to build a new army. So just as Britain did in 1939 and 1941, perhaps it is time to reassess the scale of Ukraine’s mobilisation.
Let us not pause for one day. Let us see this through. The world is watching to see if the West has the resolve to stand up for our values and the rules-based system. What we do now for Ukraine will set the direction for all of our security for years to come.
------Wallace comments end.
Think for a moment what the aside insert "The average age of the soldiers at the front is over 40" really means. Can Storm Shadows change that fact?
A comment from Germany----- says everything.
If what Wallace says about the average age on the Ukrainian front is true, 40 years, then the worst assumptions about losses have been far exceeded.
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In a draft based army your main pool of man power should be between the ages of 18 and 30. So about 24 should be you average "enlisted". Now officers it is different , That usually is an older population.
This is ugly. Where are all the young men? Where have all the flowers gone?
Who says the russians have lost 270,000 troops? Your magic 8 ball?
Or the ever virtuous Ukrainian ministry of defence?
Bullshit.
You know something is up when the anti-Russian propagandists are putting in overtime in the comment section.
270,000+ lololololololol
ok waiting for an answer...270,000 where did that number come from?
In other news , look at this insane comment from the ISW.
ISW I
@TheStudyofWar
Follow 6/ Putin may have ordered the Russian military command to hold all Russia's initial defensive positions to create the illusion that Ukrainian counteroffensives have not achieved any tactical or operational effects
despite substantial Western support.
12:03 AM • Sep 25, 2023 • 1.3M Views
Thats RIGHT!! It was all a facade!! Putin that: devilish, crafty, omnipotent, Borsch eater has fooled us ALL!!
AGAIN!! He did it AGAIN!!!.
How could we all have been so blind!!
And I thought the Ukrainians were actually losing??
Silly me!!!
But it was PUTIN doing a deception operation to make the Ukies look bad!!
Exactly!!!!
And to make it look real, The Russians killed about `17, 000 Ukrainian soldiers and destroyed about a 1000 to 3k of various pieces of equipment too. Sheer GENIUS!!
Genius I tell you!! Faked everybody out, they did!!
Yep, Got to hand it to Old Vladimir!! He is tricky!
It includes wounded not just dead , but yeah both sides figures are inaccurate . To start though do the conservative math of 4000 assorted Russian Tanks, APC and IFV . Let's average it out to 4 men per vehicle (3 in tanks, probably 8 in apc etc but let's be generous )
That's 16 to 20000 just in that alone .So Russian figures are absoloutey laughable , Ukranian not so much .
@904, buddy, your completely spun
Funny thing is Russian artillery is getting blown to hell, and do you think those clusters are tickling them lol
Fazman 😂. A poster child lefty who thinks repeating the same garbage over and over again makes it more and more true. The definition of delusional
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You got that right.
Joe Goebbels methodology.
ISW. is a group of neocons stuck in an echo chamber of thier own making.
They are the embodiment of cognitive dissidence and gaslighting.
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