Russia's President Putin (R, back) and U.S. President Trump (L, back) walk during a meeting. Sputnik/Alexei Nikolsky/Kremlin via REUTERS
Leonid Bershidsky, Bloomberg: Putin and Trump Couldn’t Make the Relationship Work
The summit ended without agreements because there’s nothing the leaders can do for each other, however much they would like to.
Given the weeks of apocalyptic speculation that preceded the Helsinki summit between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, the news conference that followed the meeting Monday should have been anticlimactic: Nothing was agreed, nothing gained or conceded. And yet John Brennan, who ran the Central Intelligence Agency during the Obama administration, tweeted that Trump’s performance was “nothing short of treasonous.”
But Trump didn’t recognize the Russian annexation of Crimea, announce a troop pullout from Syria, promise to disband NATO, withdraw U.S. troops from Germany or stop the deployment of U.S. anti-missile defenses in Eastern Europe. He didn’t give up his opposition to Russia’s Nord Stream 2 pipeline into Germany or express regret about his decision to supply lethal weapons to Ukraine. In fact, he did nothing that could be construed as undermining U.S. interests as traditionally understood. His comments revealed no freebies to Putin or even any sign that the two leaders had attempted to negotiate compromises on the many substantive issues that divide their two countries.
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WNU Editor: According to all the Western pundits/news media/politicians/etc. .... nothing was accomplished, and this summit only showed how out of depth President Trump is when it comes to international relations. And what made everyone come to this conclusion .... a brief 30 minutes news conference at the end of the summit where a good part of the focus was on Russian election interference. No mention or news coverage has been made on what was discussed behind closed doors, and what agreements and/or understandings were made during these private talks. And when there is some coverage .... like the above commentary .... the conclusion is that nothing was done. On the Russian side, the news media is painting a different story .... and they are revealing some of the details on what was discussed behind those closed doors. To begin .... and to me this is very important .... the diplomatic war is over .... Russia-US summit may put an end to diplomatic war, says expert (TASS). An extension of the nuclear arms treaty .... Russia open to extending nuclear arms treaty with U.S. (UPI). A resumption of military ties .... Russian military ‘ready to work with US’ after Trump & Putin talk Syria, nuclear arms in Helsinki (RT). More here .... Pentagon Open to First Talks With Russian MoD - Reports (Sputnik). And what caught my eye was this .... Russian Military Offers to Cooperate with US in Syria (Military.com/AP). I predict more details will be released in the coming days and weeks on what was discussed and agreed to during the summit .... I am just wondering if the Western media is going to cover it.
9 comments:
President Deals is cucked by Vlad.
America is a laughingstock.
That's about it.
Sorry anon but with commentary as above you are one of the US media mentioned by WNU. Why did you bother?
It's better thzn it was before in US Russia relations.
The MSM has made a huge mistake on their approach.
The Western press is operating like the Western press during WWII, propaganda 24 hours a day against Trump and his administration. The content will be as wild, inaccurate and deceptive from now on as it was from 1942 thru 1945.
America is a "laughingstock?" Actually the "laughingstock" is POTUS's opponents. Essentially POTUS has placed the pursuit of peace above partisan politics. Perhaps he underestimated the stupidity of Republicans in doing so.
While Germany has moved on from Cold War rhetoric, they do love NATO largess and since it costs them nothing and has huge benefits to them they will laugh at you/us while they ink deals with Russia regarding their oil supplies. After qll they've rightly pegged their US allies, at least the political class as complete and total idiots.
There are stirrings among France to eliminate their portion of sanctions against Russia. They are laughing at our stupidity. Right now they love their gullible Americans.
Indeed we are a "laughingstock." We, at least our leaders, are to stupid to take the opportunity to end Cold War 2 that has been laid before us on a proverbial golden platter. Such opportunities are fleeting and should be capitiized on when they avail themselves. Prudence suggests we avail ourselves of this. POTUS, for all his flaws, is a prudent man.
As a "laughingstock" the euros are laughing at us. Should America meet an untimely end this is of no concern to them. They've been using and abusing us for decades. They will celebrate and drink long into the night celebrating the demise of their "strategic competitor."
Of course Russia is essentially permanent. They grasp this. We Americans are merely passing through and are like a "flash in the pan" here today, gone tomorrow and never what were what some idiots thought we were.
Let's dress dowm arguably the most powerful mwn on earth in public. Fortunately ee have a POTUS who isn't that stupid. The lives of Americans are far to important to sacrifice on petty politics.
Oh, it accomplished something. It created a brand new mental condition known as "Helsinki Syndrome".
/similar indoctrination patterns to "Stockholm Syndrome".
The phrase, "But Helsinki!" - to be repeated ad nauseam and possibly chanted in riots in the coming weeks. A crazy rabid attempt to undo something that wasn't ever done in the first place.
Albert Einstein: "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."
And the latest Leftist over-the-top, fake freakout du jour bites the dust.
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Let's put conspiracy theories aside for a moment (pee tape, kompromat, collusion etc.. we can address these if/once there's any credible proof):
1. I give Trump a lot of credit. We're currently living through McCarthyism4.0 - amped up by 24/7 news, social media and the Outrage activism and Outrage commercialism (dubbed Outrage,Inc.). To try to reestablish relations with Russia at this time takes balls. Double so when the left calls him a traitor, compromised, a poodle of Putin and so on.
2. We know Russia meddled. We know that because they always do that. By legal, illegal and covert operations. It's nothing new.
3. The same agencies who tell us the Russians meddeled also tell us it didn't affect the outcome and
4. Rosenstein just confirmed that no American colluded /was not knowingly part of any of this.
My takeaway. Russia meddled. They know we know. But what's more important.
It was a small operation.. not worth the nearly 2 years of legislative and judiciary warfare on all things Trump wanted to do on behalf of his voters. It's been politicised beyond reason and Russia wants to put it behind them, so do most Americans. However, Democrats will still want more -hold Russia accountable, exert maximum pressure on them and all that. What's the cost benefit analysis here? They'll start screaming that you must never give an inch to Putin. That's fair enough. However the more realistic thing is: pick your battles. Just harden your election process further and make it clear/pass a law that imposes unbearable cost on any attacker in the future. That's something everyone can get behind. EG for any dollar spent in an Ad Russia puts out to influence your election have 1 million dollars on sanctions. Russia ran about 50,000usd on some Facebook ad. That would be 50 billion in sanctions next time. Just a start of course, other things are not easy to track etc. What I'm saying is this:Democrats need to stop screaming collusion, need to stop their McCarthy outrage Inc approach and just work with republicans to make the US safer and better. And that includes working with Trump. Enough is enough
If Russian meddling was behind the exposure of just how ethically bankrupt the clintons and the dim-o-crats are, where do I mail my check for some exposure next election?
1. Just now at talk, asked about Russian interence in our elecctions, Trump said: NO...all our itel, appointed by Trump say: Yes
2. Poster remains a clear-cut troll
3. Trump is weak, clearly unable to be critical of Putin, lies and says no president as tough on russia as he is: false
4. advised not to go into meeting alone: does it
5. Senate will soon ask for What Took Place since Russia announced that some agreements made But We Do Not Know What
6. and simpletons here think Trump is both tough and on the up and up.
7. this is a disgrace
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