The Most Violent Country In Europe: Britain Is Also Worse Than South Africa And U.S. -- Daily Mail
Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed.
Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.
The figures comes on the day new Home Secretary Alan Johnson makes his first major speech on crime, promising to be tough on loutish behaviour.
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My Comment: I concur with the stats on Canada (I live in Montreal) .... we are not as safe as we would like to believe.
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I m not sure that we can compare the same things.depending on the defition.
It s a very interesting post
It's not that simple. There are different classifications of assault by country. Level 1 assaults in Canada make up the most number of assaults but they are defined as "little or no injury". The USA would not include that as a violent crime. You're basically comparing apples to oranges.
These stats, according to the image, are from the EU and the UN. The EU and the UN both standardize definitions when making comparisons - which is probably one of the reasons the US doesn't show up on the chart.
The clue lies in the words "new Home Secretary Alan Johnson" - he became Home Secretary on 5 June 2009. These figures are more than three years out of date! Someone has also moved a 1999 Daily Mail article on UK crime up the Google rankings - Why???
The latest England and Wales stats actually show crime at its lowest level since 1980. Who is doing this manipulation?
yes, it's not a new article, and also the FBI doesn't include simple assault in its violent crime stats, which means the apples and oranges comment is correct.
The key dynamic of these studies is urban areas. I was also shocked to find that canada has a very high URBAN crime rate...about twice the USA's for every crime type. BUT..the further you get from large population centers, the rates tend to equalize across western countries. So, its nor fair to say Canada has more crime, because its just in urban areas.
the 'key dynamic'? LOL. violent crime statistics are often cited by american gun nuts trying to prove guns decrease crime, so in my view the 'key dynamic' is that guns kill, because -- no matter how high the violence in other developed countries -- the far highest violent death rate is in the US, which also has the highest gun ownership rate.
The only bad thing about the situation in America today is that there's a huge imbalance of firepower between many innocent (complacent) people who choose not to arm themselves, or those forced to disarm themselves in so-called "gun free zones" like schools, as compared to criminals and thugs who obviously choose to arm themselves almost at all times, whether on the streets or when they walk into DISARMED schools to shoot them up.
Until the people all arm themselves with guns and train, then comparing the U.S. to any other country in Europe is pointless, like apples vs. oranges.
u want all of us to imitate criminals. no thanks.
d nova you are incorrect, the US does include assault as part of its violent crime statistics. They judgement is valid, the US has a far lower violent crime rate than these other countries.
no, eric e p, the US FBI crime index includes *aggravated assault*, not *simple assault*. u need to read every word, n do a fact check next time.
All European nations show all sex crimes (prostitution, consensual underage sex w/adults, etc.), all assaults (spitting, slaps,etc.) and threats. The U.S. limits violent crimes in these two areas to only include forcible rape and aggravated assault. France does not show simple assault, unlike the rest of developed Europe,but will show all sex crimes and more assault then the U.S.
It is impossible to do comparative analysis to show U.S. violent crime compared to any developed nation. We just have too few categories. Further, we do not catalog all reported crime nationally in the U.S. either.
Here is an interesting comparison. U.S. Robbery and Burglary rate per 100,000 are 817. The U.K. number for the same two categories are 687. The murder rate of 1.49 (any method) hasn't been 1.49 or greater since 2005 for the U.K.. The 2011 rate was 1.22 per 100,000. Our rate was 5.1 in 2011. We are a much more dangerous country to inhabit. So, a chance of an encounter through stealing by robbery or burglary is more dangerous in the U.S. both in number of incidence per 100,000 and the possibility escalating to murder.
thanks, david platts. most of that pretty much agrees w/ what i've been saying -- but i must object to adding robberies n burglaries: in the US robbery is classed as a violent crime, while burglary gets counted as a property crime. it's like mixing a dozen melons w/ a dozen grapes then saying 'i have 2 dozen fruits.' it's accurate but misleading.
Banning guns in Britain didn't help much. Google stats on violent death there. Stabbings and getting clubbed to death very popular over there.
Best thing to happen in Britain. Much better to die by knife or blunt instrument.
League of Shame, indeed! Did not expect Britain to be on top.
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