IBTimes: Danish Warships Could Be Targeted By Russian Nuclear Missiles If Denmark Joins NATO Shield, Diplomat Says
Russia's ambassador to Denmark warned Saturday that Danish warships could become targets for Russian nuclear missiles if the country joins a U.S.-led NATO missile defense shield expansion. NATO has expanded the highly sophisticated, largely U.S.-funded system in Europe since 2002. But Russia has increasingly griped about the expansion since the start of the crisis in Ukraine, which has pushed East-West relations to their lowest point since the Cold War era.
WNU Editor: This announcement caught me off guard. A nuclear missile for a ship .... speaking of over-kill.
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9 comments:
WNU Editor,
Nope. Soviet doctrine called for the use of nuclear weapons, such as the supercavitating torpedo's, against NATO subs and surface battlegroups.
The tech of the Soviet torpedo, is that it created a curtain of bubbles, over the head and body of the torpedo, which broke the boundary layer, and allowed the torpedo to hit speeds of over 370 kmh,
But of course, the speed and the bubbles, meant it could not track or "hunt", and as "close" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, the warhead would be nuclear.
As BMD would only be used in a full on war, in the initial days, very quickly the cruise missile war heads would be tactical nukes.
Jay .... I know about subs being targeted (as well as large battle-groups) with nuclear weapons .... it is just that Denmark has a small navy ... a couple of ships .... that is what I meant by over-kill. As for the rest .... yes .... the cruise missiles (and other missile systems) will have nuclear warheads and they will be used ASAP with Ohio submarines and aircraft carriers being the prime targets.
WNU Editor,
The Danish Navy is already part of NATO, and has been for a while.
In a war with Russia, the Danish Navy's task would be the same as during the Cold War, close the Baltic and bottle up the Northern Fleet's subs.
This is just a reminder to the Danes, that they need to go back and reread all the old Cold War manuals,
Because NATO and many European countries semm to be acting, as if they completely forgot that Russia has nukes.
Jay .... I grew up during an age where the fear of a nuclear war was very real .... and today .... it astounds me that many now want a return to those days.
WNU Editor,
I don't see it quite that way. The MSM keeps going on and on like today's Russia, is the 1993 Russia, and armed conflict with Russia, will not have any serious consequence.
Most of the MSM don't really want to talk about the Old Cold War at all, other than the Comic book version, where the "hero" get's to "kill Commies for Christ".
Jay .... I think I did not make myself clear. I am in agreement with what you are saying .... and my beef with today's media and the western political class is just that .... they are stuck with an outdated view on what is Russia today .... and what worse .... is that they are not sensitive to the consequences of what may happen if everything should blow up in an armed confrontation. It is as if there are some in Washington and elsewhere who want to provoke Russia into a Cold War response .... and they do not care on what may be the consequences.
WNU Editor,
Hilliary Clinton's " We Came, We saw, he died" on Lybia,
Paski's smirking about coups,
The NeoCons are in charge, a they believe that " breaking stuff" won't have consequences, for them,.....
And it won't, they are Rich, Connected, Protected,
Everybody else however, is screwed.
I think Russia bears some responsibility as well and should take efforts as well to cool things down. The provocations go both ways. Russian actions seem carefully designed to provoke a NATO/US response then blame the US/NATO for the provocation. I think US leaders are not bright enough in some cases to recognize they are getting played. So far its worked quite well for them. The Russian leadership along with US and "Western" leaders need to give this some serious thought.
As for what America should do, a good place to start would be by extricating us from the Ukraine situation by any and all means necessary and forcefully announce that Ukraine will NEVER be a member of NATO as long as the US is.
As for how Western European nations should respond, perhaps they'd not have such swagger without America. After all if the whole thing blows up, it's going to be America who takes the brunt of the Russian military retaliation not them. In this case get tough approaches with Russia might have some risks associated with it. In this case, they'd think differently.
As for Russia, I'd suggest not getting hysterical about missile defense positions that can't possibly threaten them. The systems are designed with the idea of a limited attack in mind from a nation such as Iran or North Korea and would need to be rethought of from scratch to have any impact on Russia's missiles. Given the multitude of threats that America and its "allies" face in this regard, missile defense is a perfectly reasonable course of action for them.
Essentially the Russians should try to see things from America's perspective as America faces a multitude of threats to its security that are far beyond any thing they face or are likely to face in the foreseeable future.
The Americans probably need to try and understand things from the Russian perspective as well. Given Russia's history of being invaded, it's not hard to understand why they are paranoid. Offer to reassure them somehow. Perhaps an exchange of positions on Ukraine and in return the Russians not throw a fit about a missile defense system that does not undermine them.
It is quite correct that Russia today is not the Russia of 1993. Also, America is not the same country today that it was in 1993.
Poster,
Your first paragraph is key. Not only are US leaders not bright enough, but they are in a position(of their own making) where they can't help but respond the way they do and the Russians have got them.
I don't know that I agree the US should completely pull up stakes in the Ukraine, but this administration should, for I believe they are incompetent to the point of extreme danger.
The rest I have to think about before I run my mouth some more.
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