Tuesday, January 19, 2016

Canada Not Invited To Paris For The Next Anti-ISIS Coalition Meeting



CBC: Canada not invited to anti-ISIS coalition meeting in Paris

Defence ministers from 7 countries will meet Jan. 20 to discuss fight against ISIS

Canada has not been invited to an anti-ISIS coalition meeting this week in Paris, CBC News has learned.

Defence ministers from France, the United Kingdom, Germany, Italy, Australia and the Netherlands will join U.S. Secretary of Defence Ashton Carter on Wednesday to discuss the future of the fight against the extremist group.

Canada's Minister of Defence Harjit Sajjan did not receive an invitation, his office confirmed to CBC News Network's Power & Politics.

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WNU Editor: It is important that Canada should be included in these talks. But with the decision to withdraw Canadian fighter jets from the Middle East has now been made .... I guess our allies are making the assumption that Canada is abandoning the fight.

More news On Canada Not Being Invited To Paris For The Next Anti-ISIS Coalition Meeting

Canada not invited to Paris meeting to discuss Islamic State fight -- Toronto Star
Canada left out of international anti-ISIS coalition meeting in Paris -- Global News
Defence Minister denies Canada cut out of decision-making on IS -- Globe and Mail
Not on the Guest List? Canada Snubbed by Anti-Daesh Coalition -- Sputnik
Canada was not invited to Paris for US-led coalition talks this week -- Al Bawaba
Canada's exclusion from anti-ISIS meeting 'predictable': Conservatives -- CTV News
Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan Says Paris Meeting To Discuss ISIS Is One Of Many -- Canadian Press

19 comments:

RRH said...

I agree. It's important for Canada to be in the fight against Islamofas ism. With that in mind, it would make more sense if we had that meeting with the Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian and Russian governments.

A good start would also be to bring back the Syrian Ambassador and stop behaving like a bunch of sock puppets.

RRH said...

How can we, for instance, support these initiatives as well as rebuilding efforts? A good position would be to pressure Turkey (as opposed to running cover for them) to stop its supporr for these "moderates" and to indemnify Syria for the destruction of her infrastructure. This would also include replacement of/ reparations for industrial machinery stolen from Aleppo.


http://russia-insider.com/en/russia-deploys-ka-52-attack-helicopters-syrian-army-prepares-major-offensive/ri12248


http://www.globalresearch.ca/turkey-is-looting-and-destroying-aleppo-syrian-industrialists-seek-international-justice/5470516

Anonymous said...

Well why would the Canadian government want anything to do with this meeting? Blame the united states for creating the Islamic state. Canada should focus more on a humanitarian aid to refugees and families who are affected by the Islamic state/United States war. The U.S. is the one who gave the fool the gun and Canada is a beautiful Country and I suggested have know involvement with United States war from here on out.

Don Bacon said...

It's been a phony war and Canada is wise to avoid it.

TWN said...

It's best Canada stays out of the Muddle East, it's an expensive game and given the current economic situation, best not to spend the treasure.

Si-vis-pasen- said...

Ok can this doctor cast spell to get this front cold weather out of town is killing me .?

Jay Farquharson said...

WNU Editor,

Neither Canada, nor Australia were invited to the last one either, Paris in the early summer).

Given the make up of the previous meeting, and the make up of the current meeting, along with the published agenda, (Countering ISIS in Iraq and Syria), I suspect a key portion of the discussions will still be "Toppling Assad".

Tip for you,

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/19/navy-seal-turns-over-picture-of-bin-ladens-body-faces-investigation-of-business-ties/

War News Updates Editor said...

Thank you Jay for the link. I am on the Intercept's email list, and I have just finished making a post on it when you made your comment. The post will be up at 20:00 EST. I suspect that Bissonette still has a photo hidden somewhere. I am also willing to bet that it will be worth a lot of money a few years from now .... which he has probably also figured it out.

Jay Farquharson said...

WNU Editor,

The photo angle is pretty much click bait, but the deal cut to avoid charges is very interesting,

And so is the "entrepreneurship".

Anonymous said...

I fail to see whether it matters if Canada participates. Until Russia inserted itself, the anti-ISIS war was a sham by Obama.
Now that Obama has deluded himself into thinking Iran is on his side, nobody believes in US leadership in the ME. In fact I think the torch as passed and Putin and Xi will settle the mess that our chef Obama has whipped up overt he last 7 years. American allies had best duck and cover while the new order is established without American guidance.

Unknown said...

"Until Russia inserted itself, the anti-ISIS war was a sham by Obama. "

Ain't that the truth.

Unknown said...

WNU,

When did the Canadians withdraw their airplanes?
Was it after Trudeau was elected? It matters.

But then it may not. If as Jay say the Canadians were not invited in June, it looks like the U.S. may be all kinds of stupid.

Jay Farquharson said...

Canada has two anti-ISIS operations.

There is a JTSF task force ( Canada's Delta Force), arming and training the Peshmurga in Iraq, that has already taken casualties and several times, found itself fighting alongside the Kurds to stop ISIS assaults.

This program costs approximately $1 million CDN a month and is being continued, with a promised review that might see it expanded.

An RCAF deployment of 6 CF-118's to Quatar, that spend their time mostly in transit to the front lines, and less than 20% of the time, are given authorization to release weapons.

This deployment has cost roughly $32 million CDN a month, and in addition, is contributing to the further degrade of the RCAF, which is past due for new airframes, engines and upgrades to the CF-118 fleet to keep it flying long enough for a replacement to be found and integrated.

This deployment was up for review every 6 months and will be withdrawn when it's current period of authorization expires. It was a campaign promise by the Liberals, supported in the house by the NDP, on the grounds that it was pretty much "all show and no go".

RRH said...

The Squirrels are certainly more effective than the CF 18s. Given the chance, there wouldn't be an ISIS leadership figure left alive; but that would mean having political leadership not in bed with Wahhibi nutcases and their handlers.

Unknown said...

JTSF supporting the Kurds is certainly worthwhile. With less weapons the Kurds have taken more ground than the Iraqis

Jay Farquharson said...

It's more complex than that.

The Iraqi Peshmurga was never "broken" by ISIS attacks, the Iraqi Peshmurga was fighting on it's own turf populated predominantly by Kurds, and they were quickly reinforced by the PPK and YPG.

The Iraqi Army was broken on Sunni turf by a coelition of ISIS attacking from outside, and Sunni tribes attacking from inside. It was only the movement of Shia Militia's to the provinces that stalled the ISIS/Tribal Offensives, and has allowed time for the Iraqi Army to rebuild.

Other than in Syria, where the YPG has pushed into Sunni areas, the Kurds have not had much sucess or interest in displacing the ISIS/Tribal co-elition from Sunni dominated areas.

So far the best "bang for the buck" Canada has seen in OIR is in training, arming, advising and when needed, fighting alongside local troops.

Unknown said...

The Iraqi government would not have to fight ISIS so hard or worry about it so much, if they had not persecuted Sunnis.

The Sunnis had what representation in Baghdad?

I mean Malaki was an absolute gem.

GWB called Malaki every day. Obama did what?

Is calling Malaki every day excessive? Maybe that is exactly what is needed after Malaki grew up the way he grew up.

Jay Farquharson said...

The US imposed Confessional Lists system ensured the Sunni/ Shia/Kurdish split in Iraq, part of the divide and conquor system. Rather than impose a system that differentiated on Policies and Programs, the system was created to divide the Shia, unite the Sunni, and unite the Kurds into blocks.

In the US, a similar system would be if you could only vote for a list of politicians, nation wide, based on race or religion, not for a local Representative, Senator or the President. If the lists system was based on religion in the US, the Catholic Church would run the US unless the Southern Baptists could pull together enough evangelical's and keep them together to form a Coalition . Needless to say, the US would be quite a different nation if they had the same imposed election system as Iraq.

The "Son's of Iraq" and the "Anbar Awakening" was a very simple solution to a complex problem. The US Military adopted the old British system of paying the Sunni Tribes to stop blowing US Troops up, to the tune of $880,000 a day. The combination of cash, and the jihadi's insistence on petty extremist sharia, plus the large US bounties, caused the Sunni tribes in many areas to kick the jihadi's out, and while not fully gone, Iraq was a quieter place , ( for US Troops).

When the Iraqi's "forced" a US withdrawal under Bush by refusing to sign a SOFA that provided total immunity to the US in Iraq, the Iraqi Government saw no reason to take over paying the Sunni tribes to not attack US Forces in Iraq, because there were no US forces in Iraq.

Given the sectarian nature of the Elections system in Iraq, and the post war ethnic cleansing started by the Sunni jihadists, you don't win the Shia vote, ( roughly 65% of the electorate) by compromising with the Sunni, or even acknowledging they have valid grievances.

So, of course, the Sunni tribes invited the Jihadists back.

Part of the "unspoken" tactics in both Iraq and Syria, ( promoted by the IRGC), is that Sunni dominated areas, controlled by the jihadist's be simply placed under seige, and those who invited the jihadi's in, get to live under their rule, and assaults not be launched until enough of the local population has had enough and fled, to allow assaults into largely empty cities. In Homs for example, it was not the jihadi's who insisted that their families accompany them out of the city under truce, it was the SAA. Many of the jihadi's wanted to Leave their families behind in the Government controlled city, where they would have better living conditions.

Unknown said...

I suppose the Sunnis fighting with us were suppose to work for free. I also suppose they could down to the local souk and pay with IOUs to buy necessities for their families.

Perhaps the assassinations of the Sunni tribe leaders were stage managed like the WWF to fool the Americans.