Tuesday, September 20, 2016

Is The Syrian Cease Fire Dead? U.S. And Others Say No



Washington Post: U.S., other nations say Syrian cease-fire is not dead, despite heavy fighting

NEW YORK — Secretary of State John F. Kerry and senior officials from two dozen nations meeting here Tuesday declared that Syria’s cease-fire “is not dead ” but offered no ideas on how it can be preserved after heavy fighting, including the bombing of a humanitarian aid convoy, broke out again this week.

“The mood of the meeting is that nobody wants to give this thing up. It’s the only show in town,” British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said after an hour-long session that others described as “tense” and “dramatic.”

The United Nations and other relief agencies suspended all aid shipments across combat lines in the wake of the convoy bombing Monday. The deadly incident capped a rapid unraveling of week-old truce efforts brokered by the United States and Russia. The plan was intended to open routes to aid thousands of besieged Syrians, possibly spur greater military counterterrorism cooperation between Moscow and Washington, and create conditions for a resumption of negotiations on a long-term political solution to Syria’s civil war.

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WNU Editor: The ceasefire is dead. And as to the original agreement that the U.S. and Russia will conduct joint operations .... that is dead too .... U.S, Russia suspend talks on joint operations in Syria as cease-fire deal fails (Washington Times).

More News On The End Of The Syrian Cease Fire

U.S., Russia say Syria's truce not dead; more meetings planned -- AP
U.S. says Syria ceasefire not dead, others skeptical -- Reuters
Cease-Fire ‘Not Dead’ International Syria Support Group Maintains -- WSJ
US, UN say Syria cease-fire 'not dead' after strike on aid convoy -- Al-Monitor
Syrian ceasefire: Is it all over? -- Nicole Gaouette and Laura Koran, CNN

19 comments:

James said...

Of coarse:
https://youtu.be/W4rR-OsTNCg

Secretary of State John Kerry makes a late appearance with aide in tow.

Jay Farquharson said...


>>TOP NEWS
Tue Sep 20, 2016 | 3:13 PM EDT

U.N. rows back from describing Syria convoy attack as 'air strikes'

The United Nations rowed back on Tuesday from describing an attack on an aid convoy in Syria as air strikes, saying it did not have conclusive evidence about what had happened.<<

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN11Q1NR

Funny that. They were so sure of themselves yesterday.

RRH said...

"Funny that. They were so sure of themselves yesterday."

And then someone asked for evidence.

fazman said...

Today (aust time) its reported that the u.n after a thorough investigation has concluded that RUSSIAN aircraft had indeed struck the convoy.
Indeed not only are they not back pedalling but they seem more adament than a day ago.

Jay Farquharson said...

A thorough "investigation" in under 24 hours, in al Quida held territory, by the UN, which doesn't even have access to the site yet.

Funny that.

RRH said...

The reports say the U.N. is callng for an independent investigation. I guess the lights will be on all night in a certain London flat.

RRH said...

http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-syria-un-aid-suspended-20160920-snap-story.html

James said...

It has been reported multiple times that 17 out of 31 trucks were destroyed. It has been reported that they were struck by "aircraft" while unloading at a warehouse and clinic. It has also been reported that the convoy was carrying 9 tons (18,000lbs) of food, medical supplies, and trauma kits.
First if the loads were evenly distributed among the trucks it would amount to only 600lbs per truck. The trucks shown in various videos are designed to carry much more.
Second only four trucks have been shown, if 17 were destroyed where are the other 13.
Third if they were in the process of unloading when hit not a single truck shown is even remotely in that configuration.
Four All destroyed trucks shown have very different topography and vegetation behind them and around them.
As Jay pointed out UN investigations can be miracles both in certainties and quickness.
As RRH has pointed out no one has come forward with convincing sensor evidence.
I do not know who did this (I have my suspicions as I have commented before) but I doubt very seriously this was any type of attack from the air. If it was then the supposed ordinance used is to put it mildly Unimpressive.

fazman said...

Red flag?

fazman said...

Red flag?

James said...

fazman,
I'm not sure I understand you on the red flag.

Jay Farquharson said...

fazman meant "false flag".

James said...

"fazman meant "false flag"." Thank you Jay.
I don't know. I have my suspicions, but that's exactly what they are.

Jay Farquharson said...

The "leap to convict" based on twitter feeds, jihadi eyewitnesses and unconfirmed claims,

Long before there is an actual investigation, is part of the tell.

Anonymous said...

You would think the rebels who seem to have drone footage of everything and anything that moves in Syria would have gotten a nice aerial shot of the destroyed convoy, much like what we saw with the fuel convoys destroyed earlier in the year. I speculate that if it was in fact a UN convoy surrounded by technicals and armored vehicles the Russians would have come right out and admitted targeting the convoy as it was in effect a weapons convoy...maybe they didn't have any footage to back this up...maybe the rebels have been slow to release good footage because they were still trying to clean up any incriminating evidence...should be interesting to see how this thing gets spinned.

Jay Farquharson said...

The convoy was Syrian Red Crescent, loaded and embarked from Damascus, so the Russian's and Syrian's knew exactly what was on it, nor would the Red Crescent smuggle weapons.

Like the Red Cross, the Red Crescent "works" with both the Governments, and the jihadi's, and if they have an issue, they take it up with the responsible party and don't publically point fingers. As an example, the Red Cross wrote, and sent to the "Responsible Governments", thousands of reports on the treatment of detainee's and prisoners in Afghanistan and Iraq, but they were not the source of the reports of abuse and torture there.

*come to think of it, if you really wanted dirt on abuses by a Organization, the Red Cross/Red Crescent files would be the ones to hack.

As a result, the Red Crescent convoy was the "perfect" target to strike if you wanted a "false flag", moreso in al Quida held area's with al Quida's White Helmet's there to quickly get out the narrative.

If the Russian's and/or the Syrian's wanted to stop the convoy, they would have just turned the convoy around on the road.

Jay Farquharson said...

Btw, the Yardzi Council have pulled out of the SFA Coalition citing racism, prejudice, a lack of democracy and being cut out of decisions, weapons and training.

They are in negotiations with Iraq, Iran and Russia for arms, support and training.

(Sorry, it's in arabic)

http://www.alquds.co.uk/?p=600250

fazman said...

Thanks;)

fazman said...

Thanks;)