NBC: What Went Wrong? Inside the Yemen SEAL Raid
It might have been a barking dog, or a crashed drone, or overheard chatter on walkie talkies. But multiple military and intelligence sources told NBC News that something tipped off the terrorist targets of an early morning raid by the U.S. and its allies in Yemen on Sunday, and all hell broke loose.
A well-rehearsed mission that was supposed to extract computers and other intelligence from an al Qaeda camp near a mountain village turned into a massive firefight involving Harrier jets, helicopter gunships and gun-wielding jihadi women that killed one Navy SEAL, 14 al Qaeda fighters and, allegedly, non-combatant women and children.
According to a senior military official, one of the dead was an 8-year-old American girl, the daughter of U.S.-born al Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki, who himself was killed in a U.S. strike in Yemen in 2011.
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WNU Editor: NBC is speculating via through its sources that Al Qaeda was tipped-off ... resulting in the firefight that resulted in this heavy loss of life. And while details on this operation are still secret, one thing is clear .... U.S. Special Forces certainly walked into a fight where the enemy was ready for them.
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Can an Awlaki be American in spirit?
14 dead, 1 seal dead, heavy losses?
Very low casualty rate on both sides for a heavy firefight that included air support.
Fazman. Some reports are saying that the number of dead is 30 or more. I expect more details will be released in the future.
1 dead Seal, 3 wounded, one downed $72.1 million dollar V-22,
14 dead "militants", ( any dead male 14-65 years of age or armed person)
Number of wounded unknown,
16 -56 dead civilians, ( women and children, including 1 US citizen)
Number of wounded unknown.
Most SOCOM SOF raids don't lose any SOF Operators, or aircraft, or result in the mass deaths of civillians.
Multiple SEALs killed and wounded in the same action, and an aircraft being lost has not happened since June, 2005.
"What went wrong?" To much is expected of the military in situations like this. When a heavily armed compound of highly trained fighters is invaded where enemy leaders are, casualties would be expected. In fact, it seems remarkable that there were so few Amerucan and allied casualties and only one aircraft was lost.
It is certainly sad abd regrettable when an American service member is lost. It also sad when a civilian is lost. The loss of civilians leads to inevitable blowback and further endangers Americans. This could be avoided with a proper deployment of American forces and a proper vetting of who is allowed to enter America.
If computer equipment was siezed that had high value from a well armed, well trained, a well supported and highly lethal figting force, 14 enemy combatants and perhaps more killed, according to at least one report prisoners taken, and only one US military personnel dead with only 10 injured and the loss of only one aircraft, a better question might be "why were there so few US casualties in proportion to the achievment?" That was actually a variation of my first question when I first learned of this. While grieving for the lost US service member, I asked "how was it we had so few casualties while conducting an operation of this type?"
Frankly it seems to early to know if the operation was a success. It's also to early to jump to the conclusion that something went wrong. There doesn't seem to be enough information available yet to draw a definitive conclusion.
By hurriedly assuming something went wrong the media is showing a clear misunderstanding of how tough this enemy is as well as demonstrating unrealistic expectations of the US military. I will reiterate anytime a US service member is lost or a civilian is lost it is very sad. Needless to say these are very sad and difficult times.
If "almost everything went wrong" as the senior military official said yet it is "not clear if the mission was a success" as the article goes on to say, this would seem a contradiction. If almost everything had gone wrong, more dead US and "allied" personnel would have been expected, fewer dead enemy combatants, our people coming away completely empty handed assuming any survived at all, and no way to spin things to say the success of the mission was "unclear." Instead it would be being called an abject failure if almost everything truly had gone wrong.
While there doesn't seem to be enough information to make a determination of what went wrong, clearly to much is being expected of the US military. I expect such things from politicians and those who aren't informed, it's not good when a service member while speaking with the media reinforces such unrealistic expectations.
I just watched a program on D-Day. 2,500 casualties before noon. What do people expect and would it be possible to actually fight a bloody battle?
D-Day was an invasion against the Nazi's fortified Atlantic Wall, by and against forces that had rough "parity", in the process of an "exististential " war.
We'll find out what the US Public's appetite for casualties is, when Trump goes to war with Iran or China, but,
By 2,150 the majority of the US Public had turned against the Iraq War.
An aircraft hasn't been lost since May, 2011 .
Forgot about that one.
My sentiment , as tragic as it is 1 dead 3 wounded and a aircraft scuttled from mechanical failure? Is light. Lapd prob lose that in a day. There doesnt seem to be a u.s mission where a u.s chopper etc doesnt crash.
Boo hoo, a plane was lost.
If you are scared of getting hurt chances are you will never when.
What matter is your relative losses and your will.
LAPD lose 1.34 Officers in the line of duty a year, most in traffic accidents.
You know that "Major Crimes" and other TV Cop shows aren't real right, they are just fiction?
LEO deaths due to hostile action.
Gunfire: 63
Stabbed: 1
Vehicle pursuit: 4
Vehicular assault: 12
LMAO,
The last LAPD Officer to die in the line of duty was Roberto Carlos Sanchez, who was killed by vehicular assault on May 3rd, 2014.
BTW, they are fundraising for the families of the victims and the survivors the The Bowling Green Massacre,
You should put your money where your mouth is in regard to "Radical Islamic Terrorism" and donate,
https://www.bowlinggreenmassacrefund.com
Bowling Greene Massacre.
1) Kelly Anne said she misspoke,
2) We all knew what she meant. These guys who came form Iraq had been engaged in killing Americans in Iraq. What the fuck do you think they would have done in America if given the chance?
3) BTW since when is vehicular assault a laughing matter?
I take JabberJay, the liberal, feels safe about letting in 2 terrorists into America from one of the countries on the list of 7, because he is safe in his little hidey hole in the mountains.
Who knows how many deaths those 2 had a hand in. They might have been responsible for 5 , 10, 20 or more deaths of Americans in Iraq. that is a massacre.
But the LIBERAL Jay is not concerned with that.
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