....Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military. Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming.....— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 26, 2017
Herscel Smith, Captain's Journal: Trump Bans Transgenders In Military
NYT:
President Trump announced on Wednesday that the United States will not “accept or allow” transgender people in the United States military, saying American forces “must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory” and could not afford to accommodate them.
Mr. Trump made the surprise declaration in a series of posts on Twitter, saying he had come to the decision after talking to generals and military experts, whom he did not name.
“After consultation with my generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States government will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. military,” Mr. Trump wrote. “Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail.”
The sweeping policy decision reverses the gradual transformation of the military under President Barack Obama, whose administration announced last year that transgender people could serve openly in the military. Mr. Obama’s defense secretary, Ashton B. Carter, also opened all combat roles to women and appointed the first openly gay Army secretary.
Note how he has couched this – very smartly, in my opinion. We cannot afford to accommodate them.
That’s how the Marine Corps sees everything. If you come into the Marines left-eye dominate, they put a patch over your left eye (for a while) and reprogram you to be right-eye dominate. I know this because my son did this to his “boots” who were left eye-dominate.
They don’t even accept left handed shooting. They value sameness and likeness above everything. Everything. If you don’t like that, then go find your warfighting capabilities somewhere else. There’s a right way to do this, and the Marine Corps has found it.
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WNU Editor: I first posted this story on my "Military and Intelligence News Briefs" post this morning .... and decided to leave it at that. For me it is not an important story .... IMHO there are far more important stories out there to follow and post on. But since then the media has gone into melt-down mode, and for many this is a very important story (both pro and against) .... so here is a post on the topic (from the New York Times/MSNBS/and a post from the Captain's Journal), and I am going to leave it at that.
43 comments:
Mentally ill can stay in Hollywood and stay out of our military
and you can take place or stay in trailer in Mississippi
I dont think a DRAFT DODGER SHOULD HAVE ANY SAY IN THE MILLITARY!
Lol what
Who obama lol
Kristin Beck, transgender Navy SEAL hero: 'Let's meet face to face and you tell me I'm not worthy'
Untuck it problem solved lol
you try that if you can find it
"Let’s begin with the retrograde cruelty. There are thousands of transgender people already serving among the 1.3 million active-duty members of the military. These are people who have volunteered their service and have potentially put their lives on the line, and yet their President, who managed to come up with a flimsy doctor’s note back in the day, denies them their dignity, their equality. He will not “accept or allow” them in the military. Imagine the scale of this insult.
However, today’s outrage—they seem to come at least once daily—is not merely one that reflects on Trump’s low character. It also reveals yet another layer of his political cynicism, and his willingness to use any tactical means available to try to emerge whole from his current predicament.
The President is in the midst of a colossal scandal, and the country, to an increasing measure, knows it. It’s not merely a matter of poor popularity polls. A sizable portion of the country wants to be rid of him and suspects he is unworthy of his office."
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-cruelty-and-cynicism-of-trumps-transgender-military-ban
15,000 out, including SEAL's, 4 Generals, 2 Admirals, at the same point in time the UAsN, USA, USAF and the Marines are spending $160 million extra in ads and bonus's to try to meet 2017 Recruiting shortfalls.
BTW, the Pentagon spends $84 million a year on Viagra, full accomodation of Transgendered Servicemen and Women would cost between $2.4 and $8.4 million a year.
LMFAO
We need to stop enabling the mentally ill, that's whats the TV's are.
MILTARY SPENDS MORE ON VIAGRA THAN ON TRANSGENDER
Seems like a political play to make the Democrats fight for transgender rights in the Rust Belt. Or at least so his own people say...
Seems like a strange political move, and its rather telling that the WNU Editor is sharing a limited viewpoint on this, and having a 'hands-off' - I sense there's a very strong opinion there that you wish to keep to yourself, WNU :P
Personally, I'm fed-up with all this gender transhuman bollox. Can't go anywhere these days without having to worry about landing yourself in court for discrimination cause you called a her a he instead of a transgender woman or some crap. And some places have gotten very PC about it. Friend was telling me that Cananda has a law now about discrimination towards transgender people, to the point that if you refer to them as the wrong gender, they can sue you... -_-
BUT -
Back on topic concerning Trump. I normally don't agree with Jay's viewpoints, but I do here. If there is indeed 'thousands' of transgenders in the military, then this is just a really stupendously stupid stance from the President, and that, is news. President Trump has not made it secret that he wants to strengthen the military.
When you start excluding members who have served their country (including a Navy Seal it seems) your really asking for a whole lotta trouble.
As the WNU is fond of saying - Optics is everything. Here, more true than ever.
In WW2 Germany had 'ear' and 'stomach' battalions to cut done on logistical problems. These soldiers were considered 2nd rate garrison soldiers.
It seems as though twisted libs what hormone 'battalions'.
A little eye candy for the twisted.
community.allhiphop.com/discussion/comment/9146278
"Under the new policy, transgender troops would receive any medically necessary care including surgery, Carter said."
http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/comment/9146278
What non-elective surgeries will they give to everyone else?
All the Left wants to do is social engineer the military as part of their world wide take over.
Look I'm giving Trump a fair shot in my eyes, as I did with Obama. What stands out to me and what I really like, is that he flat out stated the (logical) reason why this decision was made. For not turning this into politics, I have to give Trump respect and agreement on this matter. Just my opinion.
lol, there are not thousands of transgenders in the military. maybe 100, if that.
The news has said 2,000 to 6,000.
Then they inflate it by adding in reservists and proclaim 15,000.
What they want is the big number to use as an arguing point.
Back in 2010, the Gay Policy institute 'estimated' there were 66,000 gays in the military or 2% or the same percentage as the general population.
Now they are saying that there is roughly 1 tranny for every 10 gays. I thought they said trannies were rarer than that.
On another note people really should study Norway rats and behavioral sink theory. That would explain the reason for gays especially since the Swedish Twin study said there was no gay gene.
I think a key point to be made is how many people are not currently allowed to serve in general, it is well beyond transgender.
LMFAO,
"At the Pentagon, the first of the three tweets raised fears that the president was getting ready to announce strikes on North Korea or some other military action. Many said they were left in suspense for nine minutes, the time between the first and second tweet. Only after the second tweet did military officials receive the news the president was announcing a personnel change"
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2017/7/26/161245/994
Is Plowman a racist? Jay says so. But Jay calls everyone, who disagrees with him a racists, sexist, homophobe. It is some sort liberal brainwashing mantra of the Left. It is also Jay's favorite dance routine.
Now Fred, Fred is a racist. This can be ascertained with near 100% accuracy by going on the internet using the Eric Holder's scientific 'disparate impact' method.
Getting back to Jay, Plowman is no more racist than I am and I am married to a minority.
Laughing my OSSOF!
Wow, look at the picture of Chas Jones.
In his pictures he is with his significant other, a woman.
"Kristin Beck, transgender Navy SEAL hero: 'Let's meet face to face and you tell me I'm not worthy'"
Kristin Beck has had the training and might still have the mindset.
He is also not your usual transgender.
Your usual transgender is a hot mess like Private Bradley Manning.
...and no, I would not go into a firefight with Private Bradley Manning.
It is too risky.
@Jay
Far from it. Your at one end of the extreme spetrum; views like Aizono Smiths are on the other end. I'm somewhere in the middle of you two plonkers.
And I said I was fed-up with all the transhuman bollox. Never said I have anything against them - I just know when it starts getting ridiculous and when political correctness rears its ugly head. I have a problem with the PC attitude, not the actual people themselves.
But you extreme liberal die-harders are quick to label people like me as racist, homophobic assholes cause its easier that way to deal with strong opinionated people who share opposite views to yourself.
Cause if you can label them as racist and get away with it, you've got an army backing you up.
But yeah.. I'm certainly an odd racist who employs black muslims...
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$84 million a year, because "Real 'Murkin's" in the US Military can't get it up with out chemical help,
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That is called atherosclerosis, which Jay knows little about.
Atherosclerosis is about as natural as entropy.
LMFAO,
Really, you belive in Climate Change?
LMFAO,
Guess you don't talk much with your fellow homophobes.
https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/sexuality-definitions.pdf
LMFAO
LMFAO,
The "I'm not a homophobe but," defence.
If you wern't a homophobe, you really wouldn't give a ship one way or another, except for perhaps the millions of dollars spent on viagra,
LMFAO
The APA shifted its definition in the early 1970s after it was picketed.
Psychiatry is also not a science. Statistics for example is a 'hard science' It starts with a bedrock of 4 axioms. Psychiatry has none.
Viagra is used due to disease or age related problems. I would expect Viagra sales to go up as the population greys. Pretty simple really, but you didn't think of it. But then you are not as bright as my spouse and she never went to high school. What does that say about you?
LMFAO
LMFAO
https://www.google.ca/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/07/26/trump-banned-transgender-troops-after-border-wall-was-threatened-report.html
LMFAO,
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sperm-count-dropping-in-western-world/
How would Russia, China, Israel, or other major military power handle the transgender issue?
For that matter how would the militaries of nations like France, the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Germany, and other "western" countries handle this?
Transgenderism is the latest fad from the sexual revolution. It is not based on science or even common sense.
You forgot "islamophobe". Use more words of that kind to appear more progressive and enlightened!
Aistralian soldiers have their own pplicy, transgendures tend to have a short tenure.
Eating kfc and fingers slipping, lm not illiterate lol
D PLOWMAN Your defence valid, there is nothing homophobic about keeping the military hetro, norks will choke to death laughing at this debate.
In other news Jay supports 'medical care for people with Body integrity identity disorder by having their limbs hacked off.
Jay just really cares about everybody.
""Given that we still do not know what lifestyle, dietary or chemical exposures might have caused this decrease, research efforts to identify (them) need to be redoubled and to be non-presumptive as to cause.""
JabberJay the magnificent is very presumptive. He is smart. He is a maven. He has a degree in something or rather.
It is noted that Easter Europeans are the next big thing in boxing or so I heard.
Boxing champions
Weight WBC WBA
Heavy Vitali Klitschko Wladimir Klitschko/Alexander Povetkin
Cruiser Krzysztof Wlodarczyk Guillermo Jones/Denis Lebedev
It could have the same reason(s) as low sperm count, but Jay wouldn't know and could not prove a damn thing. But Jay does not have the skills but rest assured he will be "LMAO"
Jay,
I am not a homophobe any more than I am a leperphobe.
I just do not embrace disease.
But you keep it up with your ole "You are a (fill in the blank)-phobe" rhetoric.
It brings out the Full frontal Lefty in you.
Never thought I'd say this, but Jay seems more extreme than Aizino... There, I said it. Ever since Trump won, he's just been getting worse and worse, like some kind of self-inflicted madness.
Jay, the bitterness is showing. Hide it better.
It's painful to watch.
"Spending stats show £31.9million was set aside to fund the sex boost pills in 2015 — but transgender services are estimated to cost £6.4m." - The Sun
Jay was talking about this and I heard it in passing at work.
"The research, published in the August 2003 issue of Annals of Internal Medicine, shows that ED is common among older men and sexual function sharply decreases after age 50." - WebMD
Is it people's fault that they get older?
We do have older people in the military. We also have fat people in the military. If a medical doctor, dentist or physician's assistant is overweight. They might keep them in because they need the sociality more than they worry about the weight. I saw that happen once. I guess someone other than the current people should be doing manpower assessments.
I also believe that transgendered people need to be treated. They need to be treated in a similar manner to people with body integrity disorder.
If you take the pill once a week, pay $30 per pill, it works out to ~ 27,000 people or maybe 2% of the military. How many of the people in uniform are above 40 or 50? I once saw some one in uniform, who was 60 to 80 and had severe scoliosis.
Does 2% sound right?
Maybe young people get it if they had a long tour oconus away from their spouse and they come back and can't perform? Would it be right to deny them?
Maybe the military could strip personal data, and publish the metadata, because some journalists like at 'The Sun' have worked themselves up in a lather.
The sensational news stories do not break down how much the Pentagon pays per pill nor how many pills a patient gets. I also know these pills are not a cure all. They stave off the inevitable by 3 to 5 years, if say your ED is cause by atherosclerosis.
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