Daniel Kliman and Harry Krejsa, Politico: Is China leaping past us?
With little notice in Washington, Beijing has quietly become an innovation superpower. How should the U.S. respond?
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I stopped right at "innovation superpower". I can't name one one major military technical system China has that didn't copy from someone else. Even this article admits China copied the CRISPR gene editing tech from the US.
China stands on the shoulders of true innovators. Coercing lopsided trade deals under threat of economic retaliation. This is exactly why so many Americans voted for Trump. To stop China and the like from raping us economically and to stop US politicians from forcing bad trade deals on the American people.
Without an assembly line you do not see or solve as many problems.
Outsourcing is a bitch.
Greenspan was wrong. He said we were going to be thinkers and not manufacturers. That is a paraphrase.
There are so many mathematical problems you have when running an assembly line.
But ignorance is bliss.
Aizino we find ourselves in agreement at last :) *offers you a drink to celebrate*
I personally welcome competition anywhere in the world. Thinking that Chinese can only copy is ignorant and racist. However, Ignoring that China has systematically used capitalism without adhering to WHO rules not only would be a historic mistake but has been the root cause of this issue. We basically have 1.5bn people who do not have to play by the same rules as the rest of the world. If you violate international patents, copyrights and trade secrets there are consequences for all citizens on earth, except Chinese. And then on top we (the rest of the world) cannot enter the Chinese market as easy as they can enter ours. We have to bribe our way in. Even apple had to bring 1bn in cash last year. No outcry. We just accept this as normal. However, it only goes on because our politicians let it happen. And they in turn let it happen because the top 1% of our society got rich because of outsourcing to China. As long as they remain rich, they won't feel the pain. And we will have to keep competing in unfair ground. This - very likely - at one point reach a tipping point at which both sides will scream for war. The Chinese because they think we don't want them to be rich/think we don't believe they can innovate etc/feel insulted, and on our side because we have to compete under absolutely unfair conditions while getting poorer as a group of nations. Chinese military gets bigger and bigger budgets and American planes are falling out of the air during training missions. It's all inter-linked.
The history books declare that the Chinese are simply not as inventive as us in the West. I'm from the UK, we pretty much invented everything!
Fake news.
"It's all inter-linked."
I'll agree with that and all the rest. except for "The Chinese because they think we don't want them to be rich/think we don't believe they can innovate etc/feel insulted"
I do not know what the Chinese think about how we view them "we don't want them to be rich".
I dont know what kind of history book you are reading
But china known for the four great invention
Paper making , printing , gunpowder , compass
Also a host of other invention from toothbrush to rocket
Start with wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions
Anon,
I did not argue with the inventiveness part. I hedged on the Chinese public sentiment part. I have seen no surveys and I have not had enough interaction with Chinese to know. In laws might call you 'foreign devil' or fascists, but it was all in jest. Point is that the interactions with relatives was not a random sample of Chinese sentiment.
You forgot an important one. That is the 'automatic thresher'.
I am into technology. Some historians are describe the inventions and advancement around Henry the 2nd's time in England as a proto Industrial revolution. This was around 1200.
An earlier pone was from 900 AD to 1100 AD in China. Like England it did not take off. It could have.
Russia had mass production around 1200. Then the Mongols happened.
@ anon
Yes the ancient Chinese are magnificent. Just ask, they'll tell you.
But what innovations have they created in the last 100 years?
There is a picture & history of the Chinese winnowing machine at the link below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnowing
Here is an interesting concept.
Both Russian and china were normal until they got conquered by steppe tribes.
Until the Mongols happened Russia was firmly European. Afterwards, they were neither European nor Asian. Sure Russian nobility married Kipchak nobility, but that is normal. The Mongols were another deal altogether.
China suffered 2 ills, bureaucracy and nomads. Would an unmolested Sung not have reached the industrial revolution? One could argue that they would not have given the stultifying effects of the bureaucracy. The Tang dynasty was defeated by one single nomad, Lu Shan. Lu Shan being the demise as the Tang is every bit as embarrassing as Italian city states being bought and sold by Condotierri. After Lu Shan the Manchu broke up China twice.
I think one has to argue that the mandarin system was a failure, because the Mandarins raised such cretins, the Emperors. The Mandarin coddled emperors were the exact opposite of Peter the Great. The 1st emperors of a dynasty were dynamic. They fought. They were warlike. Then the mandarins coddled their children and grand children the was dragons were coddled in Game of Thrones.
The Chinese could take on horse warriors when they had A 1/2 a mind to do so. One time they ambushed some Huns or Turks in a 3 sides ambush with crossbows and hidden foxholes. Horse warriors are not all powerful, but they seem that way when their opponents are swivelized.
The Europeans hit china when it was at the nadir of a dynasty, a racist dynasty.
what many people forget is that history is cyclical with up and down for many cultures , right now it is the hay day in the west and dark age everywhere else , before 16 century ( start of enlightenment ) it was the opposite with china high time ( tang dynasty 618-904 AD) mideast( islamic golden age 750-1258 AD)
Most western are euphoric by the west dominance ( and rightly so) but as the political , economical , social decay set in,the civilization take nose dive in to the dark age
Historically , civilization period take between 400 to 600 years , and the west already have 400 from 1600 century .
And of course everyone think himself is different untile they are not .
History was cyclical in 1984 until(e) it was not.
Nothing says you have to sell your country. Foreign investment does not equate automatically to imperialism. In Japan and Brasil a foreign entity can only own 49% of a joint venture. I think this is a good practice. The U.S. and other countries should adopt it.
With investment everywhere and the spread of technology, every place can have a 20/21st century standard of living.
If it does not it is the result of war or corruption.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087803/
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