A view of a parade celebrating the 105th birth anniversary of founder Kim Il Sung in Pyongyang, North Korea April 15, 2017 in this photo released by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) on April 16, 2017. (Reuters)
George Perkovich, National Interest: If America Topples North Korea and Iran, What Happens Next?
Just say no to regime change. It hasn't worked in the past and it won't now.
On October 19, National Security Advisor H. R. McMaster declared that President Donald Trump was not going to accept the North Korean regime threatening the United States with a nuclear weapon. “He just won’t accept it,” McMaster reported. “There are those who have said, ‘What about accept and deter?’ Well, accept and deter is unacceptable.” McMaster was speaking at a conference organized by the Foundation for the Defense for Democracies—a small but influential Washington think tank. Its leaders advocated the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and now provide intellectual fuel for McMaster, CIA Director Mike Pompeo, and others, such as the Wall Street Journal editorial board, which called for “The Regime Change Solution in Korea.”
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WNU Editor: If you break it ... you own it. And at this moment in time there is fortunately no appetite in the U.S. public to wage war against North Korea and Iran with the goal of regime change .... and there is certainly no desire to be responsible for cleaning it all up when the bombs have stopped dropping. But in the event that regime change is pursued .... and it is successful .... unless the U.S. is willing to commit hundreds of thousands of soldiers and trillions of dollars for a long term occupation .... nothing is good is going to come out of this.
8 comments:
Make the previous owners pay for it.
Simple answer is, other planets.
To successfully complete that goal, we as a species would have to quickly evolve to survive. Far beyond our current capabilities and limitations due to bureaucratic red tape.
Anon,
Karl Marx was wrong. The scientific history is not as he laid out.
For example you can find feudalism further back than the Dark Ages.
That is there is nothing new under the Sun. Going to a different star will only replicate the existing problems.
Rocket boy, his clique, people who shirk dealing with him will have to be dealt with.
I am all for a passive aggressive apprach so that the guilty have not one leg to stand on.
Chaos and turmoil for a long time to come, that's what will happen. There isn't anyone prepared to lead (without he out ruthless the previous leader) and the people don't know how to be anything but controlled. The French Revolution, Russian Revolution, and Arab Spring showed that.
Sorry, I have unsubscribed to the Pottery Barn rule. If we wind up in a fight with you, we are going to wreck your country and YOU can figure out how to fix it.
"Sorry, I have unsubscribed to the Pottery Barn rule. If we wind up in a fight with you, we are going to wreck your country and YOU can figure out how to fix it. " - Anon
This is an interesting comment.
Take it to its next step.
Some regional power or pissant country knows the U.S. can defeat them in 3 days or 2 weeks. meaning they can clear the skies, clear the seas and wipe out anything divisional size or longer. They then can mop up.
But the pissant leader calculates that the U.S. will not invade because the public and pols cannot abide a long war or occupation to fix the country (Pottery Barn rule). So the leader transgresses away counting on the lack of will to invade, because there is a lack of will to occupy. Plus the pissant leader calculate that he will get some support or cover form other powers such as China or Russia at the UN or elsewhere.
If the U.S came in tossed a cabal out of leadership and left quickly, these cabal might not be so blasé blasé and actually 'behave'. The downside is that people like Jay or Bob Huntley would be outraged and be muskier than a wolverine.
Name me one regime change war that has turned out well, not only for the country that waged it but also for the country where the regime was changed. We're still paying for the 1953 coup in Iran and that wasn't even a war. Our national policy continues to be regime change even though every one of those wars has been a disaster and has produced nothing but chaos and death for those regions. The only real power that the US exercises is the power to destroy, which we have done exceedingly well over the last 16 years, but I guarantee you, that's not what our founders had in mind when we broke away from the British Empire. Instead of becoming the shining beacon for mankind that we should've been, we instead have become what we waged our war of independence against.
Japan, Italy & Germany
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