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Weifeng Zhong, National Interest: China Is Trying to Bribe North Korea into Good Behavior. Here Is What That Means for America.
Understanding this relationship has important implications on how the United States can effectively deter North Korea.
As President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping meet in Beijing this week, not much about the North Korea crisis has changed since their Mar-a-Lago summit in April. U.S. policy toward the “Rocket Man” will not bear much fruit unless the Trump administration comes to terms with the fact that Sino–North Korean relations are strained these days.
China’s growing trade with the rogue state understandably frustrates Mr. Trump. To be fair, China’s dominance of North Korea trade is partly driven by the fact that other countries are cutting ties with Pyongyang. It is in Beijing’s interest to support the Kim regime and prevent it from collapsing, so that thousands of refugees do not pour across the border. But the fact that China ramped up its economic support in recent years—driving North Korea’s overall trade from $4.8 billion in 2006 to as high as $7.8 billion in 2013, according to the International Monetary Fund—calls for further explanation.
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WNU Editor: There is a lot of truth to the above story that China has a long history of bribing North Korea to "behave" via through trade .... but should the U.S. try to "bribe" China by using the trade weapon to stop them from supporting North Korea? From my perspective .... I personally think that is exactly what President Trump has been trying to do since his first meeting with Chinese President Xi in April. Will it succeed? I think we will only know the answer when President Trump returns to Washington, and will he start to impose penalties on Chinese firms and banks that do business with North Korea far more than what he has done so far.
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What China must realise is
1. Right now north Korea doesn't pose an existential threat to US cities
2. This changes very soon (2018 by most estimates). Once the threat of reliable payload delivery (forget the missile shields,we all know they barely work) to a US city becomes reality, everything is off the table.
3. At this point, any help from China to north Korea in the past and present will be highlighted to the American people. So far this hasn't happened at any significant level.
4. Once Americans realise that China hasn't only mistreated them in trade, stolen in trillions when it comes to industry espionage, sanctions and copyright theft AND on top works with nuclear north Korea, you can bet your ass that things will change very unfavourably for China.
China, if they have any foresight at all, and if they learn from even the near past, needs to urgently get ahead of this, because the US will strike. And this time, the US won't forget what happened during the first Korean war.
If China thinks they can win against a determined US in this decade they are mistaken. Not under Trump. He will use nukes.
"Trump used to blame China for America’s trade problems. Now he blames America.
China’s charm offensive seems to be working."
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/world/2017/11/9/16628008/trump-china-trade-fair-asia-trip-xi-jinping
And can you imagine what happens if north Korea manages to get a couple missiles through (not as unlikely as you think, it might actually be probable given the number of nukes they have and the poor performance of the missile shield).. and then with hundreds of thousands of dead Americans in an attack about 100x larger than 9/11...and then the Americans learn that the Chinese even sold the rocket fuel (no joke -Google it) to north Korea. ...lol. if anyone says again China is smart rofl for making a few billion with north Korea in trade they are literally risking their own survival and world peace. ..thanks, China
"forget the missile shields,we all know they barely work" - Anon
This is known by you, because you are computer scientist, mathematician or engineer.
"Kelly's son, Marine 2nd Lt. Robert Kelly, was killed in 2010, while serving in Afghanistan."
- WaPo
I mention this because you have many career military whose children are also in the military. Do you think they want their children using defective equipment?
We've seen Jay bellyache about theater ballistic missile defenses are creeping up on or at the ability to taking out ICBMS.
We've seen how a theater or tactical ballistic missile defense took out the scud last week. It is all the same. The difference is speed. For that they have been working on materials and such.
"The difference is speed"
You make it sound easy. You realize it's been decades of trying and billions of dollars spent across nations like Russia, China and the US and none of them have a working (>75% probability of interception) missile shield for ICBMs, you know that, right? This is 75% per missile. And we don't even accomplish that.
"The difference is speed"
You realize that at high speeds (or maybe you are more familiar with size differences, think really small sizes like quantum mechanics), things (materials mostly) behave different?
"The difference is speed"
You realize that even the SR-71, which flew at much lower speed (about mach3) than ICBMs, the plane materials were made so they wouldn't seal at ground temperature, but only when reaching higher speeds? (otherwise they wouldn't work).. result was the plane was leaking at ground temperature.. don't believe me? :)
Now, the topic was North Korea and China's enabling actions.. lets get back to that
U.S. has already shot down ICBMS.
All we hear from the usual suspect is that the test was scripted.
- Does not ground tracking 'tell' the missile the general area where the incoming ICBM will be?
- Does not the test ICBM travel at very high mach speed?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/09/05/can-the-u-s-intercept-a-north-korean-missile-infographic/#2cf97cea3a60
The graphic is not good enough. I would like to see the moving average and the speed of the missiles (There being s great variation in ballistic missile speed form Mach 3 to mach 23).
Still, Lie again.
All I hear is a lot of can't and what were your skills again?
(Yes, I know about the Blackbird. Once off the ground it had to refuel again. But you did not bounce this off the other news.)
"Now, the topic was North Korea and China's enabling actions.. lets get back to that"
Blah, Blah, ...
Trying to separate talk of North Korea from NORK ICBMs & nukes is like trying to separate slavery from the 1860s secession.
That pig does not fly.
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