The Guardian: US senator: military families should leave South Korea as threat of war grows
North Korean media has warned that nuclear war could break out ‘at any moment’ as the US and South Korea begin their biggest-ever joint air drills
The Republican senator Lindsey Graham has called on the Pentagon to move the families of US military personnel out of South Korea, as a senior Trump administration official warned that the potential for war with North Korea was growing by the day.
The South Carolina senator, who is a member of the Senate armed services committee, also opposed sending any more military dependents to South Korea, which hosts 28,500 US soldiers.
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“It’s crazy to send spouses and children to South Korea, given the provocation of North Korea. South Korea should be an unaccompanied tour,” Graham said on CBS’s Face the Nation.
“So, I want them to stop sending dependents, and I think it’s now time to start moving American dependents out of South Korea.”
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WNU Editor: Thousands of Americans will be in South Korea when the Olympics begin in February. Should they be told that it would be best if they should not go? I know that tensions on the Korean peninsula are high, but they have been higher before. I guess it all comes down to a personal choice. In my case .... if I had a reason to go to South Korea right now .... my answer would be yes.
More News On U.S. Senator Graham's Remarks That The Pentagon Should Move U.S. Dependents Out Of South Korea Due To North Korean Threats
GOP Senator: It's Time for Military Families to Leave South Korea -- Military.com/AP
Pentagon should move U.S. dependents out of South Korea due to North Korean threat: senator -- Reuters
Leading U.S. senator urges Pentagon to evacuate military families from South Korea as threat of war grows -- Japan Times
Pentagon should move US dependents out of South Korea due to North Korean threat - senator -- Euronews
Graham: Pentagon should move US dependents out of South Korea -- The Hill
Pentagon should move US military families from S. Korea ahead of possible war – Sen. Graham -- RT
Lindsey Graham: It's “time start moving American dependents out of South Korea” -- Legal Insurrection
13 comments:
I think it's just part of signalling that they are ready for war. North Korea will notice this and see it as a major escalation. This means to them that after February the US might strike. This was expected, of course and US announcement to families overseas was due. 2018 is also the year when a war decision has to be made. It cannot be later than end Q1/early Q2 2018 either as capabilities of North Korean icbms increase at higher speed than the US missile shield efforts (even if the US just poured a few more billions into it. .it's too late). Likely by Q1/Q2 a loss of one or more US cities would be all but guaranteed in a full nuclear exchange with north Korea, which is believed to have 20-60 warheads by then. So everything is moving towards war and unless there's a diplomatic break through or ruddering back of sanctions and signals, we're poised to have one. And can you imagine what a guy like Kim JongUn does in case he very well might die? Launch nukes against everyone he hates. Leaders in Seoul, Tokyo, Washington, ..but maybe also a few towards China (if they really, really don't work together lol)
If there is a risk of war breaking out, olympics are probably not a good enough reason to be in the area along with one's family :)
Off topic
Another US Special Forces victory over innocents?
https://www.alternet.org/human-rights/new-investigation-finds-us-special-forces-massacred-somali-civilians-orchestrated-cover
Sorry if it has already been covered here, I haven't been following the site for couple weeks.
Bob, it was covered last week.
http://warnewsupdates.blogspot.ca/2017/11/did-us-special-operations-forces.html
Correct
Tensions have been higher?
When?
fazman,
Pueblo
shooting down a U.S. spy plane killing dozens of US personnel
killing 2 US marines with axes when they were cutting trees at the DMZ
artillery exchanges 6-7 years ago
the attack and sinking of a South Korea warship a few years back
etc.
WNU Editor,
Fazman's question was/is the same as mine. When were tensions higher than now? Thank you for the clarification on this. Very respectfully, while you may be correct that tensions were higher in these cases than now, it seems that each of these quickly dissipated. In the current situation, tensions have remained high for a very, very long time. This is the longest period of high tensions that I can remember.
In September, when discussing this with some people, I predicted "war within 6 months. North Korea, as well as China and Russia have backed us into a corner by refusing to do anything major to assist, leaving us with no choice. North Korea is a bit like a poker player who had a fabulous hand and overplayed it.
Anonymous,
"...a diplomatic breakthrough or ruddering back of sanctions and signals..." So you think if sanctions are lifted or lessened this is going to change North Korean behavior. Very respectfully I disagree. Actually, if it were this easy, I could get this done tomorrow, if I were POTUS or otherwise had the authority to do so.
I've long recognized that sanctions have negative utility. All they accomplish is to undermine the role of the US dollar as world reserve currency, pretty much ensure a "hard landing" when the end of the US dollar in this role actually does happen (the loss of the dollar's role in this regard is inevitable and cannot be prevented, hence the goal needs to be a "soft landing"), strengthen the resolve of the enemy, give the enemy a huge unearned propaganda victory as they can blame "sanctions", sanctions are easily beaten, and they make those who are "on the fence" less likely to support us.
As such, I would have lifted sanctions long, long ago or never put them in place anyway. You mean to suggest this all we have to do, scale back or eliminate sanctions. As the saying goes, "if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is." This saying would seem to apply in this case.
Actually there is a way to solve. The Russians, Chinese, and others are approaching this from the wrong direction. Americans need to feel that they are safe. Once this happens, fruitful negotiations can take place to resolve and defuse the conflict. This is the approach the Russians and the Chinese need to take. They need to work to ensure that Americans have sound reason to feel safe. As for North Korea, they count China, Russia, Iran, and numerous other powerful countries as allies. As such, they are perfectly safe.
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Bob,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U4Qu08D8Sw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfn7IAZoYBI
Maybe the U.S. should Keanu Reeves right before harvest.
Two can play that game.
I still wouldn't call it higher, Nixon? made it clear there would be no retaliation for the planes downing.
Likewise for the cherry tree murders the war was still to fresh and there was no stomach for a,repeat.
North Korea has (laughably denied) sinking the corvette and at worst could have expected a tit for tatt exchange.
The artillery barrage that killed a hand full of people actually goes counter to the sea of fire myth and sth Korean military and gov't was severely criticized for a lack of response that the nth had correctly predicted.
I stand by my statement that tensions have never been this high as the price is higher than ever and the u.s has a president who is not bluffing and is obviously prepared to make the hard call to preemptively protect his citizens.
As you said, if this was Putin the talking would have been over months ago.
I agree b poster, taking sanctions away does zero about the leaders line ,weapons already developed and will hasten the Development of others.
It will not be long (guessing3 ,months) before the u.s sets a red line and a deadline the message from the administration is crystal we are not asking you we are telling you.
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