Tuesday, March 31, 2020

The U.S. Navy Is Unprepared To Handle The Covid-19 Coronavirus Pandemic

On March 25, Hospital Corpsmen 1st Class Jonathan Ivey, left, screens Ensign Mackenzie Jones for signs of the coronavirus before allowing him to board the amphibious assault ship USS Makin Island (LHD 8). (US Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Jeremy Laramore)

Navy Times: An outbreak on a Navy warship — and an ominous sign of a readiness crisis

It started on Monday, March 16, with one chief on board the littoral combat ship Coronado feeling sick and being sent home for a few days.

Ten days later, nine Coronado sailors had tested positive for COVID-19 and more than 30 crew members are having their movements restricted — about half the crew of the small warship currently in port in San Diego.

The ship’s planned underway periods have been postponed until the outbreak is under control, according to two sources familiar with the situation.

“It was a total shit-show,” said a sailor familiar with the outbreak on Coronado. “Everybody started getting sick. I felt like the right thing to do was get everybody off the ship, test everybody whether they were sick or not. Then put the people who were fine on a barge next to the ship, bring on the people in HAZMAT suits and have the ship cleaned professionally.”

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WNU Editor: Giving sailors buckets and bleach and told to wipe down things is not how you disinfect location.


Anonymous said...

Unexpired household bleach will be effective against coronaviruses when properly diluted.

Maybe the polarity of the molecule has something to do with it?

All these chemicals with chlorine and fluorine are being banned for some reason. Maybe because chlorine and fluorine have high electronegativities and create polar molecules or ions with one part that acts like a crowbar?

Navy ships have had ship-wide pandemics before and the XO's got on the line and told the E2's through E4's to use soap & water and bleach instead of spray in wipe which is much easier. Then the XO's would tell everyone else to go inspect the results.

It seems to me that sailors from various Navies usually automatically have a certain amount of comaraderie, because they face the same threats. Ask some Russian sailors how they clean, when they have an outbreak.

Anonymous said...

That picture will be historic.. look at that.. neither the inspector nor the other guy wear a mask.. no fever check.. jesus.. the US navy will see utter and near complete service disruptions.

Anonymous said...

"neither the inspector nor the other guy wear a mask.. no fever check.."

- How do you know if they did a fever check before the picture or 3 other times that morning?

- Maybe all the masks went to the hospitals and such places.

- They are about 6 feet apart, so good social distancing.

- Some medical experts say masks work and other say they don't. Some people who said masks do not work and gave reasons now say that they do work to capture droplets containing viruses form a person who is infected. If these people are not infected, then according to some experts a mask is not needed.

Remember viruses are like buildings that need periodic capital reinvestment or like radioactive particles. They are not forever.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 3:56
Superficially logical, but let me ask you this:
Do you really think, that for a photo op like this, they wouldn't have the thermometer ready and wear some masks?
And no, that is not good social distancing. 6 feet is for the common public. You should be much, much more cautious if you invite someone aboard a Navy ship. Jesus fcking Christ. What you hear and see on TV is not the gold standard.

Anonymous said...

Ships crew does not ask for an invitation to come onboard ship. They request permission.

I highly doubt that the captain is allowing visitors onboard.

I also highly doubt you will be a successful photographer or director.

Is your superficial logic going to demand that everyone on a sub's crew be 6 or more feet apart?

My gold standard is what I learned in college, OJT, choosing which experts to listen to and experience.

copley7 said...
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copley7 said...

It is easy to point fingers, but it is surprising the that Navy did not foresee this occurence. USNI mag and blog has posted several articles in the last months about what a horrific impact the disease had on Navy opertions in WW-1, during 1918 and into 1919 after the war. Ships kept fighting with the disease, manning the guns while still sick.

To have major combat units sidelined by a disease headed our way is embarrassing. It is not just us either, a Russian nuke boat had to return because a civilian visitor on this sub brought it on. A Dutch sub was recalled because 8 crew mwmbers were diagnosed with Covid - 19. So its not just the USA either. History repeats itself, but no one looks at history anymore it seems.