STAT News: At Harvard forum, three who know warn of ‘most daunting virus’ in half a century
CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — For a veteran epidemiologist, an authority on homeland security, and a global health reporter, the outbreak of the novel coronavirus is the type of emergency they had long anticipated. But now that it is here, the three experts said Friday, they still couldn’t help but feel the monumentality of what they were watching unfold.
“It’s the most daunting virus that we’ve contended with in half a century or more,” Michael Mina, an epidemiologist at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health, said at a panel discussion Friday at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government.
Helen Branswell, STAT’s infectious diseases and public health reporter, has covered emerging pathogens since the 2003 SARS outbreak.
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WNU Editor: A very sobering discussion.
Update: Here is another interesting on why new diseases keep appearing in China (video below).
20 comments:
You want us to get worked up?
Well we are worked up. China locked up a few million Uighurs. A pandemic gives the Communist Party all sorts of cover to shape the populace. The can cull plenty under the cover of night.
"15 of 21 Coronavirus Deaths in US Were at Life Care Senior Center in Washington State – Center Goes from 120 to 63 Residents in Recent Weeks." It is an acute care facility. It is where they warehouse people to die.
71.4% of all deaths n America came from 1 building.
We are being zoomed!
Lol just listen to her.. 19min30sec in or so.. immediately going after President Trump with the shaken social justice warrior voice we all got to know so well.. you know which one I mean, when the voice vibrates because of all the evil you associate with Trump .. they are everywhere.
Lady, the death rate is likely around 1% or lower. Not 3%. People don't report when they have a cough or feel tired. I had a cough and felt tired a few days ago, and before that a few weeks ago. It's winter season. There are 10 fold or even higher of underreported cases. This means it is not 3000 death per 100,000, it means --- as with any new virus and reportings (where did she study?) that the death rate will dramatically be adjusted below.. it could be 0.2% for all we know. STOP PEOPLE WHO TALK WITH A SHAKEN VOICE haha she should not give health advice if she doesn't have her emotions under control, I am sorry. But you have to reflect a bit of confidence and you have to LEAVE POLITICS OUT!
A person with the same genetic 'profile', will survive measles as a child and die or be maimed as an adult.
The immune response has to mediated.
Part of what maybe killing some COVID-19 patients is the immune response
China turns Roche arthritis drug Actemra against COVID-19 in new treatment guidelines
1) This worked in treating SARS.
2) This is how patients with rabies, who did not get the vaccine in time survive it.
The girl in Wisconsin survived rabies, which has a near 100% mortality rate. Actually rabies virus does not kill you. It is the immune response does.
The immune system actually clears the body of rabies virus. And of everything else.
3) Study what kills you in leprosy. The pathogen or your immune system.
Thing people think. Do not be led to slaughter by some journalists and rent-seeking scientists.
Make sure your hospital has enough anti-inflammatory drugs. That is how you are going tom survive if you get a bad case.
In other news China declared war on America by simply stopping shipment of drugs to America.
Medical Mystery: Only One Person Has Survived Rabies without Vaccine--But How? -SCIAM
Is WNU going ZH?
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A broken clock is right twice a day
US Marines are also learning how to eat wild creatures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ3MMseHCnE
a broken clock to be trusted only for one day
Hedge is not a clock
fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice shame on me
"US Marines are also learning how to eat wild creatures."
The point of the 11:26 post? To be inane? To be insane? To criticize?
Spec ops (and others units) in militaries around the world. for the last 60 years or more. This is not news.
Have you ever watch Bear Grylls reality series? Where do you think he learned to eat snakes and stuff? In spec ops training many, many moons ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls
So why the comment?
The broken clocks, which I was referring to was Anon 10:28 and TNR.
A somewhat less obvious factor is that Trump’s own mismanagement has demonstrably contributed to these disasters. The entire crisis has grown out of Trump’s constitutional aversion to long-term planning. In his autobiography, Trump boasted that he does not even plan his days, but simply reacts to events as they happen. That process is now dominated by cable news, and especially the stock market, which is Trump’s narrow and highly distorted prism for understanding the entire economy. He dissolved the skilled team of pandemic experts he inherited from Obama on the overt calculation that it wasn’t a priority. “Who would have thought … we’d be having this subject?” he mused.
At some point Trump may retreat to the defense that the coronavirus is an external disaster for which he can’t be blamed. But a series of leaks have documented his direct responsibility.
In January, the Washington Post reports, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar “was having trouble focusing Trump’s full attention on his coronavirus briefing … Why did you push me to insert myself into a controversial political issue? Trump demanded.” Another Post story notes that, while health officials warned not to say the virus had been “contained,” people like Lawrence Kudlow insisted on saying this anyway.
Politico’s reporting implicates Trump’s aides, who apparently shared the broad right-wing belief that the virus was overblown, in trying to keep the issue off the president’s agenda. “It always ladders to the top,” a person involved in the administration’s response says, “Trump’s created an atmosphere where the judgment of his staff is that he shouldn’t need to know these things.”
“Trump is simply not on the same wavelength as the rest of his team, but they said there isn’t much they can do to change his public tone,” reports NBC. “Trump has been advised by some close to him to let public health officials, rather than the politicians, take a more forward-facing role, according to a person familiar with the conversation. But a person close to the White House said Trump thinks it helps him politically to keep doing what he has been doing.”
White House health experts wanted to advise old and vulnerable people to avoid commercial flights, but were overruled by Trump, who feared the impact on the economy. Trump even resisted the mild and extremely obvious advice that old people should avoid booking cruises, for fear of the impact to the cruise industry, before eventually relenting. Even sycophantic sources like the Federalist are begging Trump to keep his mouth shut.
"US Marines are also learning how to eat wild creatures."
My point is back in October 2019, the world military games were held in Wuhan, China with the US team stayed very close to the Huanan Seafood Market where the virus started. Btw, the US team finished 35 in the standings without one gold medal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Military_World_Games#Medal_table
"Trump even resisted the mild and extremely obvious advice that old people should avoid booking cruises,"
Anon 1:13 be honest with us. Does the US government have to run PSA's again remind you to wash your hands after going to the restroom?
If readers here took a vote, 98% of them would think the USG needs to do just that.
Daily Mail is 1/2 tabloid and clickbait. Be that as it may, they yearly, if not quarterly, run stories off this or that cruise ship with a norovirus outbreak.
Should Trump also refrain old people from going on cruises a year from now, because they might catch norovirus?
At this point in time, who doesn't know that cruise ships are breeding grounds for viruses?
Oh I am sorry, you did not know. That was mean of me.
Who has money and the time for cruises. Old people. What are they supposed to do? Sit in their government provided flat, eating their government subsidized food, and occasionally using their government provided Obama phone?
Maybe the next flu should not be called the Hong Kong Flu or the London Flu, but the Carnival flu? Or the liberal housing project flu?
I took the liberty to look up and post the prevalence of viruses in cruise ships since all you can do is imitate. And frankly, you are a moron.
Outbreak Updates for International Cruise Ships - CDC
British cruise ship denied entry to Gibraltar due to norovirus outbreak - USA Today FEB 11, 2020
Cruise ship nightmare: After measles, norovirus outbreaks, why does anyone still set sail?
"My point is ..."
You were very oblique about your point.
"You were very oblique about your point".
I'm stating facts. I guess the truth hurts.
What truth?
US soldiers were in Wuhan and?
This disease only has kills those that are elderly or infirm. I do not think it kills elderly much at all. Only if they are infirm as well.
Where were the US soldiers from?
China has been using the virus as cover to round up young people who they believe will or have protested the PRC. In short the virus itself does not kill many people.
Rolling up a you n person in plastic to obscure their face form view is no different that cold blooded murderers rolling up a murder victim in a carpet to carry them out the door to a waiting vehicle.
The Chinese communist party is murdering people on a mass scale and you are an accomplice. You really do have a motive for hoping Heaven is not true.
Yeah, keep on making your own version of news in order to satisfy your appetite. Not wasting any more time with you on this discussion. Bye.
"Yeah, keep on making your own version of news in order to satisfy your appetite. Not wasting any more time with you on this discussion. Bye. I am cutting and running like bleeding bitch"
Are you implying that the US soldiers carried the COVID-19 back to the US unknowingly or that they cause the pandemic in the 1st place in Wuhan.
If the latter, you had better have proof or it is a blood libel and will start a blood feud.
Anyway the virus only kills the the infirm or infirm and aged. Either China has shitty health care or they are suing this 'emergency' to round up and murder dissidents. It is the latter IMO.
Now,. keep running cur.
Ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ...
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4860737/user-clip-coronavirus-2019
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