Monday, May 18, 2020

Comparing The Response To Covid-19 To The Killer Pandemic Of 1969


Eric Spitznagel, New York Post: Why American life went on as normal during the killer pandemic of 1969

Patti Mulhearn Lydon, 68, doesn’t have rose-colored memories of attending Woodstock in August 1969. The rock festival, which took place over four days in Bethel, NY, mostly reminds her of being covered in mud and daydreaming about a hot shower.

She was a 17-year-old high-school student from Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, when she made the trek to Max Yasgur’s farm with her boyfriend Rod. For three nights, she shared an outdoor bedroom with 300,000 other rock fans from around the country, most of whom were probably not washing their hands for the length of “Happy Birthday” — or at all.

“There was no food or water, but one of our guys cut an apple into twenty-seven slices and we all shared it,” she said. At some point, a garden hose from one of the farm’s neighbors was passed around and strangers used it as a communal source for bathing and drinking, she said.

And all of this happened during a global pandemic in which over one million people died.

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Update: Woodstock Occurred in the Middle of a Pandemic (AER)

WNU Editor: The reaction to Covid-19 has definitely been different ....

.... While it’s way too soon to compare the numbers, H3N2 has so far proved deadlier than COVID-19. Between 1968 and 1970, the Hong Kong flu killed between an estimated one and four million, according to the CDC and Encyclopaedia Britannica, with US deaths exceeding 100,000. As of this writing, COVID-19 has killed more than 295,000 globally and around 83,000 in the United States, according to Johns Hopkins University. But by all projections, the coronavirus will surpass H3N2’s body count even with a global shutdown.

5 comments:

Blackdog said...

From 1968 to 1970 over 100,000 died in the US. Over a 2 year period, no social distancing. In 2020 over a few months 83,000 deaths in the US, with social distancing.

Anonymous said...

Black dog,

I see no social distancing. You might be able to measure 6 feet between this or that person or this or that group. But people are still mixing.

I never once during the lockdown did not cease to hear the road traffic in the interstate. The roads are full of cars. The stores have plenty of people, if they are big box.


"In 2020 over a few months 83,000 deaths in the US, with social distancing."

1) Colorado just lowered the corona death count by 23%.

Colorado lowers coronavirus death count from more than 1K to 878 - The Hill

There have been overcounts and the overcounts have been fraudulent. They may have been lawful and fraudulent , but they were nonetheless fraud.

2) How many centenarians did we have in 1968 compared to now? The population structure is different. We have more older people percentage-wise and the older people are older on average.

3) You are comparing a population of 330 million now compared to 200 million back then.

So lower you figures by 1/3rd (33%) to normalize for population. Lower it again by 10% or 20% for overcounts.

The overcounts are driven by politics and money. The Corona relief bill gives extra money for corona patients.

4) NYC skews everything. The nursing homes skew everything too.

If you think skewness doesn't matter, there is not much to discuss.

There will be many lawsuits over nursing homes. The Pennsylvania and NY governors are going to be in the news for a long time and for good reason. They need to be prosecuted.

Where I live there are 11 ICU beds used for corona. It is down from 13. That difference of 2 is important. That difference means that the goobernor will have less excuse to keep us on lockdown. We're in lock down because 13 people are in ICU out of a population of more than a million> That is crazy.

Blackdog said...

https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2020/05/16/colorado-changes-how-coronavirus-deaths-state-counted/5198485002/

Blackdog said...

I think how they changed the count is totally reasonable.

Anonymous said...

They decreased the count.

So the 83,000 deaths number is no longer valid. It was never valid.

Also found out that The Late Great State of New York is fudging the nursing home numbers. If a person catches corona in a nursing home, but are transported to a hospital and die there, then it is counted as hospital death not a nursing home death.

What if you were a traffic engineer or highway safety engineer and you wanted to lower deaths n the roadways. But when you got a database of deaths from car crashes it listed the hospital where the accident victim was brought as the place of death/injury, but not the accident site. It would make your job much, much harder.