Thursday, October 15, 2020

After Being Named As One Of The Sources Of The Hunter Biden Email Revelations, Rudy Giuliani Now Being Accused By The Media To Be A Target In An Influence Operation By Russian Intelligence

 


WASHINGTON — U.S. intelligence agencies warned the White House last year that President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani was the target of an influence operation by Russian intelligence, according to four former officials familiar with the matter. 

The warnings were based on multiple sources, including intercepted communications, that showed Giuliani was interacting with people tied to Russian intelligence during a December 2019 trip to Ukraine, where he was gathering information that he thought would expose corrupt acts by former vice president Joe Biden and his son Hunter. 

The intelligence raised concerns that Giuliani was being used to feed Russian misinformation to the president, the former officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive information and conversations. 

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WNU Editor:: This is how the main stream media tries to destroy people that they perceive to be a threat to their agenda. Call the Hunter Biden email story a hoax without even investigating the content and the emails that were published, and then accuse one of the messengers (in this case Rudy Giuliani) of being someone who is influenced by Russian intelligence because four anonymous sources told the Washington Post that they warned the US President that his friend was being influenced by Russia. Sheessshhhh. The Washington Post and their anonymous sources. I have lost count over the past four years on how many times these anonymous sources were proven wrong. But it does not stop there. Other media organizations jump on like the above CNN video report or the Business Insider post that I linked above saying the Hunter Biden story is "dubious", and repeat the same talking points from the Washington Post that this could be a Russian influence operation. 

This is why I know the Hunter Biden story is big. Like the Trump Access video October surprise in 2016, we are now seeing the Joe Biden son's October email surprise, and the media alongside with their tech allies know that this one will hurt.  

But I think it is too late. Their story line to protect the Bidens  is already falling apart because people want answers and these media outlets are not doing what people expect news organizations must do. Did any of these reporters actually investigate and/or contact the Ukrainian officials named in Hunter Biden's emails. No. Did they ask the Biden campaign if the former Vice President met any of these Ukrainian officials named in these emails and to say it on the record that he did not meet them and/or he did. The answer again is a no. Did they figure out that it was only a month after these emails were sent between Hunter Biden and Burisma officials that the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating the company got fired because the former Vice-President warned the Ukraine government that they would lose their aid if they did not fire him? No. And then there is the big question that has yet to be asked and answered. Why was the former Vice-President with his busy schedule and numerous responsibilities be so determined to have a criminal prosecutor in another country be fired because he was investigating a natural gas company for corruption? Was it because his son was involved with that company as per what these Hunter Biden emails are implying? Sadly .... I am still waiting for that question to be asked, and the answer given.

17 comments:

RussInSoCal said...

It's funny how when the Right makes a political (crime) accusation there are always people with names and faces behind it.

When the Left does it, there's no one. Just a the usual manifest of "anonymous sources". Which as we've learned over the last four years, simply means that its another desperate Fake News fail.


NICE,
TRY,
WAPO,

R,

Anonymous said...

all very simple: Barr in charge of all things legal. Let him press charges or insist of investigation. Or reveal what he knows or has. Everything else is bullshit gossip political posturing.

fred said...

WASHINGTON — The intelligence agencies warned the White House late last year that Russian intelligence officers were using President Trump’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani as a conduit for disinformation aimed at undermining Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s presidential run, according to four current and former American officials.

The agencies imparted the warning months before disclosing publicly in August that Moscow was trying to interfere in the election by taking aim at Mr. Biden’s campaign, the officials said. Mr. Trump and Mr. Giuliani have promoted unsubstantiated claims about Mr. Biden that have aligned with Russian disinformation efforts, and Mr. Giuliani has met with a Ukrainian lawmaker whom American officials believe is a Russian agent.

Robert C. O’Brien, the national security adviser, presented the warning about Mr. Giuliani to Mr. Trump in December. Two former officials gave conflicting accounts about its nature. One said the report was presented to Mr. Trump as unverified and vague, but another said the intelligence agencies had developed solid and credible information that Mr. Giuliani was being “worked over” by Russian operatives.

Mr. Trump shrugged it off, officials said, but the first former official cautioned that his reaction could have been colored in part by other information given to him not long before that appeared to back some of Mr. Giuliani’s claims about Ukraine. The specifics of that material were unclear.

Mr. Giuliani did not return requests for comment. The Washington Post reported the intelligence agencies’ warning to the White House earlier on Thursday.

The warning, the second former official said, was prompted by a meeting on Dec. 5 between Mr. Giuliani and Andriy Derkach, a Ukrainian member of Parliament who takes pro-Kremlin positions. The Treasury Department recently labeled him “an active Russian agent for over a decade,” disclosing that he maintained ties to Moscow’s intelligence services as it imposed sanctions on him in September.

Anonymous said...

Right SoCal like this.https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-barr-in-trump-doghouse-durham-flynn-investigations-election-2020-10?fbclid=IwAR0W-AFgcRHAmTj2F6ThyIXLgOD6mUIFjDrsvAOU_McB9BtsA0B_vVcQS6M

Anonymous said...

The editors comments are garbage. The questions that he says that are not being answered have been answered. If you would only listen. Like the Ukrainian prosecutor being fired. He was fired because he was not fighting corruption. Official US policy. or this false question. Did anybody ask if I can schedule corresponded with these accusations of a meeting. Yes yes I did. There was no meeting. The schedules do not match up. Or you can use the Trump line that maybe I did meet him on the side but it was just a handshake and a hello. Whatever .

Anonymous said...

When the right make an accusation it’s banana Republic BS. In the USA you can’t use the DOJ against your political enemies. It truly embarrassing how many times Trump has tried to do this and failed. Trump is such a failure that he’s not even a good banana republic dictator. Thank god for the “deep state “ , the USA institutions that trump has tried to destroy and failed. It’s these institutions of fairness for all that make America great.

Anonymous said...

"Like the Ukrainian prosecutor being fired. He was fired because he was not fighting corruption. "

Suck on it. The Ukrainian prosecutor was corrupt? News flash! Idiot has an eureka moment. Have you ever considered that everyone is corrupt in that country or many countries?

If it is common for everyone to be corrupt, what is am person to do. You look at the relative corruption. If someone is relatively less corrupt than most others, you go with that person.

If you have the 100% pure standard, you will never get anywhere.

In fact you will be a gullible little patsy. Some corrupt kingmaker will find something wrong with a prosecutor going after his party. Maybe that guy cheated 5,000 on his taxes. SO the king maker outs the kebosh on him. Replaces him with his guy who cheated on his taxes by 10,000. With his people in place the king maker can clear a million in tax cheating and other schemes.

All that really matters to the king maker is that he gets people like you to get their nether regions in an uproar when they hear about the 5,000 and they do not hear about the 10,000 are are sated with the head of the 5,000. With a compliant press it becomes easier.


Read “IF THIS GOES ON—”

Everyone in that society is corrupt except for one (a few). That guy is not corrupt so he is kept a JO and out of the loop. His roommate finally explains to him that he will never get anywhere unless he is corrupt and the TPTB know that he is corrupt. That way any time they want to take him out, they can.

So he engages in forbidden extramarital sex. Next thing that happens he is promoted. Now if he is caught doing something bigger that might embarrass the governement , they got him on this minor charge. They can dispose of him and his career without embarrassment to the higher ups.

WNU has spoken about this in China. High party leader gets caught working with the CIA. That is a major embarrassment. Instead they nail the guy for economic corruption. That way they can look like they are looking out for the little guy in China and save the CCCP embarrassment on the spy thing.


Thing is that the CCCP knew the guy had engaged in kickback and other corruption for decades. But they all do it. They only used it when a big scandal such as spying occurred.


I manufacturing you know how you measure things? It is not with a perfect ruler. It doesn't exist. You measuring device has to be 10 time more accurate than what it is going to measure. By analogy if want a prosecutor I want him to be 10 times more honest or less corrupt than the people he is going after. I know I am not going to get Jesus as a prosecutor in this world, so I make do.

There are exceptions. FDR put the dirtiest man he knew in charge of the SEC. That would be Joe Kennedy. Joe knew every trick in the book, so FDR figured he would be able to catch others. Also Joe was political important and reliable. But mostly you want your measuring stick 10X more accurate.

After you get that going for w awhile you get a measuring stick 10X more accurate than that. You get more precision/accuracy in stages not all at once.

Anonymous said...

It is a Banana Republic. I don't care about Trump's Access Hollywood tape. I fucking don't you ho bitch of the Left.

A billionaire or millionaire has a mistress. SHOCKING! Way of the world.

What is the liberal dogma on the issue? Ah yes, consenting adults.

Clinton had a long term affair. Jennifer Flowers. You elected him. Thing is that on top of it , Bill had many one night stands and other affairs. He also had some encounters that were not consensual. That is not okay by your book.

What do we have in Hunter Biden? I'm hearing it is statutory rape.

We are told it is the seriousness of the charge. We are told a story of "well decades ago there was a hair on a coke can and ..." So we must investigate.

So here we have an actual bonafide sex tape of less than a decade ago.

- We have the tape.
- We have facial recognition software.
- We have birth records (well maybe. What if she were an illegal immigrant?)
- We have illegal drugs

We could have a proper investigation, but the FBI (FIB)sat on it. Just like the sat on the Clinton Email Server scandal.

We work for corporations, city, state, federal govt. and military and we get records retention training yearly by law. Those in the federal govt or military get training on security

Miss Clinton flagrantly breaks the law and we are suppose to swallow that. I bet you want us to swallow your nasty cum too.



Tell us a tale of records retention, national security and Hillary you diseased fuck (928).


Anonymous said...

Simply stated the “Rule of Ten” or “one to ten” is that the discrimination (resolution) of the measuring instrument should divide the tolerance of the characteristic to be measured into ten parts. In other words, the gage or measuring instrument should be 10 times as accurate as the characteristic to be measured.

https://rfminc.net/resource-center/metrology-tips/ten-to-one-to-ten


We always hear the lame liberal excuse of the prosecutor was corrupt. If every government official or company employee takes kickbacks, don't say nothing can be done until we find Jesus Christ.

Some amounts are bigger than others. Some corruption is worse than others. Order of magnitude matters

Be specific on what corruption the Ukrainian prosecutor was engaged in. Then apply to the 10 to 1 rule.

Don't say that the prosecutor was corrupt or that every prosecutor is corrupt so we cant go after tens of millions in fraud, because a few thousands in corruption. AL I can say to that id FUCK YOU" and a whole lot more IRL.

Anonymous said...


Donald Trump Has At Least $1 Billion In Debt, More Than Twice The Amount He Suggested

Anonymous said...


"Donald Trump Has At Least $1 Billion In Debt, More Than Twice The Amount He Suggested"

Looks like another Fred Special

I remember Fred getting the worse end of a back and forth debate. He posted a comment saying to the effect "The Hell with this. I'm a getting off the internet and having company. A EE professor friend is coming over to visit. See that shows I'm a smart. See you hate girls later."

An hour later, he was back on the internet. Must have been short visit.

It is possible that the EE had accounting for engineers as a course or a few chapters in another course.

I wonder if that EE does not view with a jaundiced eye, when Fred talks about how much Trump owes or does not owe without comparing it to ROI, ROA, cash flow or other things. Based on the EE's education, experience and reality his blood curdles when listens to Fred talk about business or science. The EE no doubt throws is wife a look, which means throw me a lifeline, get us out of here!

Fred, you want to talk about loan amounts? Then talk about it in relation to ROA, ROI, & cash flow. Otherwise, you sound just like a callow 12 year old or the 12 year old's grade school teacher. Not a good look.

Fred just assume that accountants, business majors, marketing majors (any one fell under the college of business), engineers and many other college grads have taken have taken courses on accountancy and business.

Also assume that many who have not, have taken such later in their career due to training in the government, military or corporation.

Know that you sound like a loon to those people.


Now from another angle.

Brennan and others have said one thing on MSNBC and CNN night after night. Then under oath the said another. These people were alleging treason on air on primetime and yet under oath ...

After all that, you want me to get excited about what Trump said or may have said.

Look on the bright side. He borrowed from Americans. Last time you were in huff over borrowing from the Chinese and the Russians. Both were lies.


You are like the boy who cried wolf, who has never seen one, and cannot begin to describe what one looks like.

Anonymous said...

Underleveraged

"Describing a company with too little debt. While it sounds strange, a company may be underleveraged because interest on bonds are usually tax deductible for the issuing company; thus, a bond issue can create higher earnings per share for stockholders. There is no metric for determining when a company is underleveraged and investors decide on it based on their personal perceptions."

https://financial-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Under-Leveraged


Many people have said Trump is underleverage for the amount of assets he has.

People with low reading comprehension do not understand these things.

Anonymous said...

Every Trumptards argument on here is full of nonsense. None of them make sense. Is their anyone on here who can debate like an adult and not like an kindergartener.

Anonymous said...

1258

Your comment is just a variation of an ad hominem attack. You got nothing.

Anonymous said...

Move Over, Hunter Biden. Meet Eric Branstad, the China Ambassador’s Son Who Got Rich in Trump’s Swamp.

The issue, dear heart(s) is how much does he owe and to whom? His son said they borrow from (among other nations Russia rather than the U.S.
You may not give a shit, but that makes for a security issue. So call all the names you want, and yes, tell me I do not understand this and that, but I do understand that there are serious things presently taking place in NY State, Southern District about Trump taxes, and deals.
so simple question: if all as simple and straightforward, why non stop appeals to prevent his taxes from being made public...

Anonymous said...

How about this one! For the first time ever the DOJ is defending a rapist! Trump!

Anonymous said...

2:50 is a Fred Lapides post.

4:03 looks like a typical Lapides post.


On the 2:50 Post:

"Mercury subsequently said in a filing with the U.S. Justice Department that, as of May 14, it would act as a subcontractor to the global law firm Hogan Lovells on matters involving ZTE at a rate of $75,000 a month for three months. "


https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2018/06/29/terry-branstad-son-eric-branstad-donald-trump-administration-business-china/747749002/

The hometown newspaper looked into back in June 2018.


On the 4:03 post.

30 year old allegation that did not come up in 2016 or the previous 30 years. Not going to believe it.

Bill CLinton was the White House rapist. Get you facts straight.