Sunday, July 11, 2021

Has The U.S. Given Up On Fighting 'Forever Wars'?

No longer Washington's security priority: members of an anti-Taliban militia fighting with Taliban insurgents in Helmand province WAKIL KOHSAR AFP  

France 24: With Afghan pullout, US ditches 'forever wars' 

Joe Biden's pullout from Afghanistan has stunned with its speed, but Washington already decided four years ago that it was fed up with “forever wars” and turned its attention to traditional great power competition with China and Russia. 

Fighting stateless terror groups like Al-Qaeda and Islamic State consumed the US security establishment, and trillions of dollars, since the September 11, 2001 attacks.

Biden predecessor Donald Trump came to office in 2017 promising to quit Afghanistan, calling the war there a "mess" and a "waste." 

The conflicts there and in Iraq had come to be characterized by unending troop deployments, persistent levels of violence, and no ability to conclusively defeat the enemy.  

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WNU Editor: It has given up fighting directly in these wars. What it has not given is providing support to their favorite side in these "forever wars".

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

The wars are about making money for the war mongering group.. so if wars abroad are not possible, they'll turn the machine against you.
After 9/11 when everything from TSA to the surveillance state was upgraded, that money to spy on you was spent at home. The companies don't care one bit. Their travel costs are lower and their people don't even have to stay in some shitty green zone hotel if they bring the machine home and target you. Well not all of you, of course.. illegitimate regimes target, in fact must target, those who point out the coup. And they'll go after those who do not swear their oath to the state party ..
They'll come after Christians and conservatives first because they are the fiercest defenders of the constitution which the state party must attack and has attacked relentlessly for years now. Think that's a coincidence?
And the state party teams up with corporations to take your rights. Fascism. And the left cheers. Making a mockery of your desire to have a somewhat free market. They say look it's just some corporations just go on another platform.. fully ignoring that the state party and their fascist corporate partners jointly and in coordinated fashion have targeted all previous alternatives platforms.. like gab.. like parlour... and they ignore that Facebook and AWS were made big through government contracts including tens of billions from the CIA for AWS which hosts Twitter and kicked parlour of when they grew.

It's the left.. it's always the demonic left, cheering on fascism, the original creators of the kukluxklan and the original slave holders.. the Democrats hiding behind a democratic sounding name.. but everything they do is a lie.. They created the crack cocaine bill.. Biden was the guy signing it off.. it's so demonic what they do and they're cheering and laughing all the way while they literally kick your head in for wearing a red hat. It's just.... people wonder how Nazis rose to power and they don't understand they used the very same tactics like the left. The very same.

It's sad

Anonymous said...

The Left are demons.

Al Qaeda attacked us on 911, true or false?

The Taliban protected Al Qaeda and wound not extradite them, TRUE OR FALSE?

What were we suppose to do after the attack?

a) do nothing?

b) Send them your womenfolk as tribute?

c) Attack them back.

I bet your preferred option are a or b. We know how you are.

Anonymous said...

Friend, my apologies you're right, the Republicans have demons too, like Mitt Romney who destroyed entire industries at home and sold them off under the Bain consulting umbrella. And the ones like Dick Cheney. You're absolutely right on that point and I got carried away. BUT.. the war at home is brought to you by the left. The terror in the streets. That's the left. BLM and Antifa have killed 30+people.. the proud boys have killed 0 to my knowledge but they're the ones the corporate state media demonizes. Just as they attack any strong men and call them toxic. That much is true and I stand by it.
And finally.. trump wanted out of Afghanistan and told the military to reduce the troops and what did they do? They lied to him, as was reported here on this very blog. So it's not that Republicans didn't want to get out.. it's been 20 years I don't know any sane person that wanted this war, so here we agree. BUT there's real demons among us who do push wars and unsafe drugs and lie to you and me. Trust me, I have seen the sausage making first hand and got out after 6 months it was so dirty. They lie and deceive us and treat us as a sub class, paying for their demonic wars in blood and treasure. The middle class paid 1 trillion for Afghanistan or close to it.
Who made bank? Those are the ones... let's not fight among each other. I'm just sick of the current demonic left, I grew up a Democrat mind you. And I believe they stole the election and when I'm upset it's because I saw the actual footage of white and Hispanic poll watchers being harassed and intimidated and pushed out. I saw all of it. And until you do watch the videos you'll not understand the anger on the right because we have watched this for years and being called racists for years and having the agenda of trump blocked for years and the spying and the leaks and the lies and the promises of evidence by Schiff to the public while his own internal discussions then showed it was a lie and just acting. Until you understand this view point there's no middle ground anymore because it went on for too long and too far.. the hundreds of beatings in the aftermath of Maxine waters call for harassment of Republicans.. for years the left media didn't report on it or told you those people had it coming, the dehumanization and belittling for years.
No friend. I admit sometimes I am polemic but I've got very good reasons and I could list them all but one thing I've learned: the left is programmed and doesn't care, I think we're beyond the point of reasoning as you never listened before

Anonymous said...

Hey sorry but you do realise that the majority of the hijackers at 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia's Whahabi extremist group, right?
You do realise that..riiiight?
And what did you do to Saudi Arabia?
Right.
Just be intellectually honest
And Osama bin laden was found to hide where? Near Islamabad, Pakistan
And what happened to Pakistan?
Right..

Again be intellectually honest it's important for your own future

Correct me if I'm wrong. I'll always listen

Anonymous said...

1:02,

You are intellectually dishonest. Al Qaeda was head quartered in Sudan and then Afghanistan. President Bill Clinton refused to deal with them. Maybe because there was no blood in his big brain , because his little brain was experiencing a huge drop in barometric pressure. When he had a drone shot at Bin Laden, Clinton refused to shoot.

When Al Qaeda blew up Khobar towers, Clinton did squat. Wm. Perry believes Al Qaeda was behind it.

Ramzi bin al-Shibh South Lebanon
Said Bahaji German
Ziad Samir Jarrah Lebanese
Marwan Yousef Mohamed Rashid Lekrab al-Shehhi UAE
Mohammed Atta Egyptian

But listen to 1:02 and other fuckercrats. Only pay attention to the trigger pullers not the Al Qaeda G3 or G3.

Pakistan was a refusal by Bush, Obama and the establishment to take the bull by the horns. The Establishment did not want to seat Trump as president and and wasted his time and resources. There was no way that Trump was going to convince or get the establishment to cut aid to Pakistan or deny visas to Pakistanis in an attempt to get them to fly right. SO Trump did the next best thing. He pulled out.

Al Qaeda was behind Blackhawk Down. Pull your head out of your ass 1:02 and get with the program. Grow some nads.

Anonymous said...

9/11 is in the past. Not by chance that our big terrorist threat at the present time is right wing terror groups and threats. Deny that. 500 right wing folks have been arrested since the insurrection of Jan 6th. Yes. an insurrection.

the protests etc often cited by the right is nowhere a threat to democracy than the attempt to overturn the election results Jan 6.
Trump did NOT win the election. If you think so, provide evidence.

Anonymous said...

1:30 moving the goal posts, because the pendejo was losing the argument.

An insurrection without firearms, or pitchforks. Good Gawd but you are a stupid dick. You must have been born wit a Mark 1 Mod 1 brain like everyone else, so how did you degrade your onboard computer? Licking other people's asses and catching a brain eating disease?

They arrested shaman guy and his 2 buddies, They were jay walking. Shaman guy is a typical stoner and would not harm a fly. But you have a stoner locked up for 7 months in solitary. The damage of locking up the Shaman over time to the Democrats is incalculable.

Just remember when the light go out this fall because of another foreign ransomware attack that FBI resources were wasted by Democrats.

fred said...

rant all you want. weapons? yep. staged? yep.
trials for 500? yep?
Proof? SEE THIS EVIDENCE

Anonymous said...

ANTIFA did stage weapons around DC by the pallet load. At least 4 ANTIFA/BLM people were in the capitol building trying to incite people.

You still have not answered why shaman guy should be in solitary confinement for simple trespass. what weapon did shaman guy have? His hairy chest. Was that a turn on for you where you km ight be in trouble and commit sin? Have you told your significant other?

Anonymous said...

Antifa are terrorists.

You better deal with that reality no matter which side you're on.

I'm from the UK and I know the death score.. it's about 30+ for Antifa and BLM and about 0 murders from the right. And the left has threatened jurors ffs.. that's the definition of terrorism.. the use of terror, threats and force for political outcome. They've threatened your courts ffs.. when will you realise what's going on? And it's the Democrat AGs that bailed out arsonists and murderers. It's unbelievable what's going on in your country. Unbefckinglievable

And I have to agree with two other statements I see made many times here

1. The election was shady as fck and the media mislead you on countless occasions prior and this time

2. The corporate media truly became the common man's enemy once they realised that news didn't make money but the withholding and massaging of information.

3. Please join.. forget left and right. Something sinister is going on.

4. Defend the constitution. That point resonates even with me. It's your foundation document and its authors warned you explicitly of things that are occurring right now, for example, I must say, the Democrats push to make Washington DC a separate state. They explicitly said Washington should be part and parcel of a state and live by the rules of that state as to not be separate

5. Whatever side you're on, denying poll watchers access is a danger to democracy and I too have watched the videos and find them repulsive. And the media's complicity in this, At this most crucial moment for democracy, when your courts are threatened, to give in. Checks and balances are failing.... it's scary

6. What's happening in the US is happening in the UK. Our media too is no longer British owned. Transnational corporations are taking over and we are fed the same lies, collective guilt, targeting white people, Christians and conservatives.

7. Do not be divided to be conquered. Something big is going on and previous comments that it's China are sound but I think simplify things. It's not just the Chinese. It's a corporate criminal syndicate that's out of control, used to being the middle men writing the laws on behalf of administrations.. you know who I mean, the Goldman Sachs, the McKinseys.. you think of them as American, but they too are globalist corporations.. so is black rock.. you think of them as American but they're not.. they're global corporations and their top market is no longer America. For years this shift has been happening and they do whatever it takes, wherever the money trail leads them. All legal. Just realize money knows no loyalty and borders and it's leaving the US and Europe during

8. What has been called the largest transfer of wealth correctly from west to east and middle class to oligarchy. It's global

9. The new class that rose from capitalism and covid will soon be trillionaires and soon after multi trillionaires. While nation states who were consulted by mcKinsey and Goldman Sachs collapse around the world. So I might add its also the largest transfer of wealth in human history from public to private

10. The war machine doesn't care who is the target, you better realise that. It never did. The bankers and biggest promise of profit determine who is the next target as your laws are written by private transnational corporations with ever changing headquarters. Today American, Chinese tomorrow

Again. Do not be divided. Trust your fellow man and rage against the oligarchy that's robbing you blind.

Anonymous said...

something is going on but do not ask me what specifically and of course I can not provide you with any real evidence that the courts had about the election and then dismissed as nonsense but trust me something is going on

Anonymous said...

At 3:35 a tenured English professor provided us with another sentences without capitalization or punctuation. Imagine that prof as a programmer. Imagine the errors and lack of productivity.

Anonymous said...

We call this type of comment crap from GRAMMAR NAZI
PS: LOSER...FIGURE OUT HOW I POST PICS, DO WORDPRESS, AND DO CODING WHEN NEEDED. OH, RIGHT. YOU NEVER GO TO MY SITE WHILE STALKING. YOU CAN ONLY COMMENT UPON WHAT IS THERE.

Anonymous said...

You are as much a programmer as a tinkerer is a real blacksmith. Ha ha ha

Anonymous said...

Why don't you answer questions Lapides?

Anonymous said...

Where's that "trophy wife" you bragged about having?

Anonymous said...

Lapides YOU provide evidence of all the claims you've made. The Internet doesn't forget.

Anonymous said...

Ashley Babbitt was a better intel analyst, spent more time in serve, spent more time in a war zone and was more promotable.

Anonymous said...

As shallow as someone is, you know she has to be good looking.

Anonymous said...

Well that makes sense, who's being talked about?

fred said...

I do not have any need and certainly no desire to answe questions from a stalker

Anonymous said...

You're up 2 hours past your bed time, not a good idea.