Thursday, July 20, 2023

U.S. Think Tanks Say The U.S. Is Not Ready To Fight A Major War

155 mm artillery shells are packed for shipping at the Scranton Army Ammunition Plant in Scranton, Pennsylvania, Feb. 16, 2023. Photo by Brendan McDermid/REUTERS  

Financial Times: Munitions put into focus as stockpiles dwindle 

War in Ukraine, a fragile industrial base and slow procurement hamper supply. Just as Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine has awoken western defence officials to the reality of hot war, so has it also exposed the need to recalibrate weapons procurement priorities — to ensure that their militaries are prepared for combat. 

War games have identified munitions — everything from bombs to bullets — as an area of risk that needs urgent attention. They found, for example, that the US could use some munitions, such as anti-ship missiles, faster than they are produced. And there could be scenarios where it does not have enough of some missiles to sustain a war — for instance, in the Indo-Pacific region. 

Experts have also identified a disconnect between the US and European defence industrial bases, when instead they could be complementing and bolstering each other in times of need.  

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Update: West not prepared for conflict with China – FT (RT)  

WNU Editor: I find it astounding that even after a year and a half of high intensity warfare in Ukraine, the West has still not ramped out their production of war material and ammo. If a major war does break out. There is no question in my mind that for the West to avert a major defeat, they will be forced to use nuclear weapons.

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

One thing to note is that the US ability to manufacture munitions is severely compromised by the dismal quality of the American workforce. American schools are cranking out illiterate social activists, not skilled workers. This is happening all over the USA and it is resulting not only in a shrinking pool of US Armed Forces candidates but a shrinking pool of US workers able to hold jobs.

Anonymous said...

Come on GS Info ops crew at Hanover and assorted Chris minions.

You are not going to let these deplorable creations get away by saying the BLOB is an incompetent cesspool are you?

No, No way, The blob is a benevolent, benign, instinctively efficient organization, filled with the Best and brightest, that does everything exactly right while bestowing woke fairy dust upon all.


In other words...not ready for war, and the surprise is?

Anonymous said...

utter bullshit comments
we were not prepared in WWII and yet....
our schools? workers manufacturing things not the same as the liberal arts grads here denigrated. Ever work in a plant making arms? I have. Ever been to grad school? I have. Served in the military? I have. Now to badmouth me in your comments because that is your only recourse among adults.

Anonymous said...

11:02

Not going to bad mouth you, but your logic is flawed.

what has this comment of yours....

[we were not prepared in WWII and yet....
our schools? workers manufacturing things not the same as the liberal arts grads here denigrated.....]

Have to do with todays problems in not being ready for war due to a weak manufacturing base?

Are you saying the situations are equal. If so please specify.

And a question,

If we were not ready for WW2 manufacturing wise, should we have not learned form the past and not make the same mistake today?

Are we not any wiser or better informed?

The government has been saying for at least 3-4 years, how Russia and China are a huge threat. If so, then why are we not gearing up to face that threat?

thank you and have a good day.

Anonymous said...

11:02 AM not even speaking about college grads here. The high school grads who would fill manufacturing positions are low, low quality. Covered with tattoos, filled with mental illnesses, on drugs, with police records, filled with the poison of "social justice" ideation, the American workforce is pure shit, not able to hold a job even if they can make it through the hiring process. This is what the Democrat party has given the USA.

Anonymous said...

11:02 they're right. Have you seen what's out there? I own a small ice cream business. I hire all high school/ college students. Northern New Jersey. There are exceptions... but the majority are not ready for anything. This isn't the youth of 1941. And then there are some of the parents.. the schooling, etc. It's very eye opening

Anonymous said...

ah, yes. kids , music, films, tv...all things suck compared to the good old days!
FDR turned factories making stuff into factories making war materials...that did the job.
China a potential enemy. Russia a potential enemy. North Korea etc etc...you would turn the entire nation into a war machine and fully neglect the mess that is our health care, infrastructure, day care, housing, nursing home industries etc ...these have weakened us and driven down life expectancy. China and Russia perhaps going full speed in arming and yet China economy is getting into steep trouble (search that) and Russian life expectancy on a level of poor African nations.
We do spend more than Russia and China combined yearly for defense! that is a fact.

Anonymous said...

https://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0053_defense-comparison

this link will show you what we spend and some 7 other nations combined by comparison spend!

Anonymous said...

12:50

All your arguments are non sequitur or misleading. It is a cultural fact the todays youth are not as immune to hardship or as motivated as the 1940s.

And why should they be? Our kids did not have to go though the great depression. Also, most of rural America before the Rural Electrification Act did not even have electrical power. That was a tougher breed and more grateful breed back then. So your snide remarks fall on deaf ears.

Yes we do spend more than all other Nations on defence. But that does not equate to combat effectiveness or fire power.

Read "The Rise and Fall of Great Powers" some time. Military spending can equal decline, which in our case this relates to all the Neocon bs projects over the last 50 years.

Bottom line: the Youth of today are piss poor at working.

US defense industries have been gutted by purposeful inefficiencies and Political policy.

Your liberal progressive buddies are just to blame as the Republicans

And why not? You all are part and parcel to the BLOB.

And its your world yo yo. Enjoy while you can.

Woke BS in our culture. American hating CRT in the schools. Transgender operations and puberty blockers for kids. LBGTQ trash porno tying to pass for "books" in the schools. Resentment replacing Gratitude and moral
relativism, replacing virtue.

Its all you dude. And it all goes against historic precedent of successful civilization.



It is going to be great when all this crap falls apart and you end up with a Chinese bayonet in your guts.

Anonymous said...

If the youth of today are not as tough as those in the past because conditions were much tougher for all young people back in the past, then that holds true for Chinese and Russian folks too. They have smartphones, social media, tv, etc what is good for the goose is good for the gooser.

Anonymous said...

I concur, But you fail to realize a crucial point . Those two countries follow traditional morals and values. They are like the America of the 1950's. Their patriotism and traditions are not being thrown in to the trash can of history. They do not question themselves as Russians or Chinese.

Yes you have the 1% who are anti government or anti Russian or hate themselves. In the 1950s, America had Communists and Beatniks, the forerunners of the hippies.

You also do not have the devaluation of the family and masculinity in those societies. These twin concepts have been part of the pillars of western civilization for over 2000 years.

That is just one of the reasons you have less factorization in those two societies and more patriotism.

You do not see Russian or Chinese military families telling thier kids not to join the army.

Lastly, you are comparing the US experience to the Chinese and Russian, it is not the same.

The US has experienced nothing but growing prosperity of the most technological advanced society the world has ever known since world war 2.

The Russians? Under the Soviets? It was a clunky, kluge, severely lagging technological, industrial, grey, modernistic, ugly, dehumanizing entity.

The Yeltsin years did not do the Russian experience any favors either.

The life of a Russian has been one of: suffering, pain, failed expectations and lack of amenities that we in the West take for granted. I think that the Russian's are anything but spoiled.

The Chinese? Just look at the sacrifices and horrible lives they had to live under Mao and the Chinese communist party. Not at all like living in America.


No, you cannot compare their youth to ours. The National environment that these kids of these three Nations have experienced are in no way the same.

But back to the original point. Why is America not ready for war ,industry wise?

Because our leadership, aka the BLOB, Having access to the unlimited resources financial and industrial potential of the United States of America has sold us down the drain: for their own gain.

That is why we are in the situation we are now. And if we get our butts kicked in the next war, there is only one thing to blame....The BLOB. AKA the current progressive Democrat/Republican machine that has ruled/shaped our politics for the last 50 years.

Anonymous said...

Stick a d stoned warfare

Anonymous said...

Open your soul's people protest all ai fools

Anonymous said...

We r spirit

Anonymous said...

Force with in

Anonymous said...

Your "Blob" seems to be both major and political parties. If that makes this nation so pathetic, why do you remain here, assuming you are a citizen and live here?

If Russian youth are ready, why have thousands fled the call up and Putin's latest war?You would have us like North Korea!
China has many many problems economically, and though it has a huge army and a growing navy, they are at this point not about to confront us. In fact they recently discovered that their economy relies on making stuff for us and thus they suddenly calmed down their tough talk.
It is easy to spot the rotting veggies in the grocery bin;a bit tougher at the far-off farm.

Anonymous said...

2:40
I concur, But you fail to realize a crucial point . Those two countries follow traditional morals and values. They are like the America of the 1950's. Their patriotism and traditions are not being thrown in to the trash can of history. They do not question themselves as Russians or Chinese.

Yes you have the 1% who are anti government or anti Russian or hate themselves. In the 1950s, America had Communists and Beatniks, the forerunners of the hippies.

You also do not have the devaluation of the family and masculinity in those societies. These twin concepts have been part of the pillars of western civilization for over 2000 years.

That is just one of the reasons you have less factorization in those two societies and more patriotism.

You do not see Russian or Chinese military families telling thier kids not to join the army.

Lastly, you are comparing the US experience to the Chinese and Russian, it is not the same.

The US has experienced nothing but growing prosperity of the most technological advanced society the world has ever known since world war 2.

The Russians? Under the Soviets? It was a clunky, kluge, severely lagging technological, industrial, grey, modernistic, ugly, dehumanizing entity.

The Yeltsin years did not do the Russian experience any favors either.

The life of a Russian has been one of: suffering, pain, failed expectations and lack of amenities that we in the West take for granted. I think that the Russian's are anything but spoiled.

The Chinese? Just look at the sacrifices and horrible lives they had to live under Mao and the Chinese communist party. Not at all like living in America.


No, you cannot compare their youth to ours. The National environment that these kids of these three Nations have experienced are in no way the same.

But back to the original point. Why is America not ready for war ,industry wise?

Because our leadership, aka the BLOB, Having access to the unlimited resources financial and industrial potential of the United States of America has sold us down the drain: for their own gain.

That is why we are in the situation we are now. And if we get our butts kicked in the next war, there is only one thing to blame....The BLOB. AKA the current progressive Democrat/Republican machine that has ruled/shaped our politics for the last 50 years.

Anonymous said...

3:25

The russians that left are just like the Vietnam guys who left. You get that in every war.

No, your North Korea comparison is invalid as it compares to unlike things. American society and NK society.

I never said your society is pathetic, that is your opinion. It's politics are. Otherwise, why do you have a demented old man as your leader, two or three failed conflicts under your belt and 30 trillion dollars in debt. When the world , at one time , looked at you for stability: economically, socially, and militarily. Very irresponsible for you.

Anonymous said...

Let's get back to the main point. Why is the United States not industrially ready to fight a war?

It is because starting in the 1970's The Government and US corporations started sending Heavy industry overseas. Now there are no huge factories that can stop making washing machines or spoons and make shells and tanks instead. That is just one reason of many. Just look at how many ship yards we have or should I say how many we do not have.

Anonymous said...

We have Biden as president because Trump was a liar, a rapist, and incompetent. That is why he has more than 4 separate indictments coming.
The real test would be an armed struggle between China and the US or Russia and the US. Neither of those potential enemies as yet wants to take on that test. That is reality.
ps: if Russia is free from the nonsense you point to, why has the editor of this site left Russia to try his future in Canada?

Anonymous said...

Reality!!!! Hahahahahahaha

Anonymous said...

$100,000 for each boutique satellite-guided shell

Fired from digitized howitzer with a rare titanium alloy barrel that needs to be replaced every 2000 shots

Essential materials for both components still being sourced from "enemy nations"


It's great stuff for policing colonial subjects and smashing small nationalist governments. Fantastic, actually.

But for industrial warfare? Meh.

Anonymous said...

So what!?!? When you actually say something maybe I'll critique it, maybe.

Anonymous said...

8:59
What are you referring to crackpot?

Anonymous said...



Mr so what

he is pathetic and a parrot of the narrative .

he is is refereing to how much stupidity he has. He does not care about anything because he is a liberal progressive puke