The shells of burned houses and buildings are left after wildfires driven by high winds burned across most of the town in Lahaina, Maui, Hawaii, August 11. via Hawai'i Department of Land and Natural Resources
Zero Hedge: 'Raped And Pillaged': Maui Fire Survivors Describe Nighttime Looting, Botched Supply Drops
The tragic disaster that we just witnessed in Hawaii should break all of our hearts. The death count just keeps going up, and it is being reported that these were the deadliest fires in the United States in more than 100 years.
In addition, Hawaii Governor Josh Green is telling us that this was actually “the largest natural disaster” that his state has ever experienced.
More than 2,700 structures have been burned down in Lahaina alone, and it is being estimated that the value of the property that has been destroyed is over 5 billion dollars.
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WNU Editor: I visited Maui in 2005. Even stayed at Lahaina for a day. When you have 2,700 structures destroyed in two days you are experiencing an incredible disaster. The lack of response from local, state, and federal offices does not surprise me. I am also not surprised that a lot of stories are not making the evening news. The optics of the government not responding adequately is something that the elites who govern us never want to be publicized.
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"Raped And Pillaged" reads this alarmist headline, but the underlying story has but a single vague quote from an unnamed survivor with zero support to back this irresponsible charge up.
Utter nonsense that no real truths reaching the public outside the place!
I knew of the looting. I knew of alarms not going on. I knew of the hurricane winds. I knew of the invasion of the highly inflammable grass growing there. I knew of the fire hydrants out of water. etc et
It is one of the earmarks of this site to suggest that a lot takes place that the MSM does not report. That is false.
The other day, commenters here bitched that Biden did not say soothing words over a mic from the White House. Try this:
The president and the first lady will meet with emergency workers and survivors of the fire, which killed more than 100 people on the Hawaiian island.
Biden to Visit Maui on Monday to View Wildfire Damage
I think Biden would go to Hawaii at the drop of a hat. Hawaii is a blue state and he would get friendly reception by other Democrats. The optics of Biden showing that he cared would be good. So why has it not happened already?
1) 4 times zones worth of difference would be hard an President Dementia.
2) His handlers are a fraud that he will wander aimlessly in front to the cameras and have senior moments.
On his way to Hawaii Biden could stop at the disaster zone that is Palestine, Ohio, but he won't, because Ohio is a red state.
"a Native Hawaiian cultural practitioner and DLNR’s deputy director for water resource management, initially balked at West Maui Land Co.’s requests for additional water."
Government has its sticky fingers all over this disaster
DEMOCRATS!
They ran with the narrative "It's global warming!!!", now to admit it was an electric fault.. no no no, have you not learned how the marxist media operates?
They claim a problem
"gender", "racism", "global warming" exists, then fund exclusively these topics at universities and then use the also marxist professors to show "aha look, these guys agree, racism/climate change/gender studies/whatever are THE MOST IMPORTANT issue"..
in reality they just want to bring our institutions down, and they are good at it, being Marxist and all that's what they specialize in.
What comes after... the revolution, death, despair, when communist China uses these idiots, to then replace our system with a new one.. that they have not thought through.. the death camps, the re-education, the mass murder.. well...
better think it through now, marxist idiots who wave ANY flag but the flag of any country of the West.
We all enjoy western stability and security.. sure, Democrats are bad. But wait until you meet the CCP
It would be a nice change if anti-Dems would just put up some sensible comments instead of badmouthing Biden. There are hundreds of train wrecks yearly. The one referred to here by the commenter, claims he would not visit because the town was Red. Sad to say but right-wingers at the time said he would not visit because he did not care for small towns, only big ones and cities! The right-wing used this incident to further do lots of badmouthing, something they always do since they have ho policies to offer. In fact, the lobby groups ensure that train wrecks take place and that punishment for them are seldom enough to fix safety issues. But that is not noted. First Biden did not say anything over a Mic in DC! now he is going and yes! bad mouth him again.
Ah, Bidin is old and so say something about that. Do you fly about for your job the way this "old and senile" guy does? Of course not but you will continue to call names. That is your DNA as a Trumper. And the Boss you so admire? Look at what name caller now faces! indictments in Georgia, Miami, NY, and DC.
It would be nice if the village committed its idiot.
Who is Bidin?
There are hundreds of train wrecks yearly. But some are worse than other and this one was particularly bad.
There are hundreds of wild fires every year, but Biden (or is it Bidin will?) go to this one. Why? To try to look presidential. The White House doctor, Kevin O'Connor, should win an Oscar for best make up.
The problem is not that "Bidin" is old. The problem is that he is old AND demented. You are not going to fix the demented part as old as he is.
DuPont sold off its biomaterials unit to the Huafon Group of China
Biden’s own defense secretary (Lloyd Austin) warned that the sale would put technology that could be used for advanced explosives in China’s hands.
Greedy traitor Biden let the deal happen anyway.
Austin and the Pentagon warned about the deadly consequences of handing over DuPont’s technology which, like CL-20, was developed in America, but would be appropriated by China leading to a grave risk of American deaths in possible future conflicts.
Biden however refused to meet with them (SecDef Lloyd Austin)
And the deal went through. Despite the supposed safeguards which were supposed to prevent Covation Biomaterials, the name of the new Chinese-controlled company, from getting its hands on the production process, it happened anyway. And the FBI launched an investigation.
So Joe Joe Biden gave the Chinese CL-20.
So Joe Joe Biden gave the Chinese CL-20.
So Joe Joe Biden gave the Chinese CL-20.
So Joe Joe Biden gave the Chinese CL-20.
So Joe Joe Biden gave the Chinese CL-20.
So Joe Joe Biden gave the Chinese CL-20.
So Joe Joe Biden gave the Chinese CL-20.
So Joe Joe Biden gave the Chinese CL-20.
So Joe Joe Biden gave the Chinese CL-20.
So Joe Joe Biden gave the Chinese CL-20.
DuPont has been kind to Biden, donating $250,000 to his inauguration committee alone, and the Biden family has been kind to DuPont. When Robert H. Richards IV, a DuPont heir, admitted to raping his 3-year-old daughter, Attorney General Beau Biden defended the judge who refused to lock him up because he has “strong family support” and “will not fare well in prison.”
Joe is a family man.
Oh wait, that was Beau Biden
I never really heard anything bad about Beau until now.
and Trump; and his family?
the comment about Hawaii is plain stupid. No one said it was the fault of climate change!
what was said: climate change worsened the fire that was started by a fallen electric line igniting invasive grasses that were readily set on fire and causing trees to catch fires.
the nutty crap about Marx is just too stupid to deal with.
Ophra Winfri owns a thousand acres on that island. Hardly an example of Marxism.
For Hawaii’s doctor governor, Maui wildfire is ultimate leadership test
" No one said it was the fault of climate change!"
1) "Devastating Hawaii fires made ‘much more dangerous’ by climate change" - The Gourdian
2) "How Climate Change Turned Lush Hawaii Into a Tinderbox" - NYT
3) "Maui fires: If Lahaina isn't a climate wake-up call, nothing is" - LA times
4) "The Associated Press distributed an article quoting Erica Fleishman, director of the Oregon Climate Change Research Institute at Oregon State University, as saying that “climate change in many parts of the world is increasing vegetation dryness, in large part because temperatures are hotter.”"
This blog will discuss the key reason for the Maui disaster, one not discussed by the media and others: a high amplitude atmospheric wave forced by strong winds interacting with the mountains of northwest Maui.
The high amplitude atmospheric wave makes sense. the knowledge comports with something that is known form another field that is not political. If you fly near mountains as a pilot you have to learn how to deal with waves created by the mountains. If you don't, you become one with the mountain very intimately.
Add invasive non-native grasses which are not accustomed to drought and Democrats turning off the water and perhaps the emergency warning system.
Hawaii's siren system is considered the largest in the world. But they weren't activated ahead of the Maui fires. Experts say the alert could have helped residents have more time to prepare.
Why Hawaii's sirens could — and couldn't — have made a difference against fires : NPR
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you are a liar or just ver stupid
the Dems" did not turn off the water and perhaps the warning system.
"But he said that as the fire began moving down the hillside, turning homes into rubble, many properties were damaged so badly that water was spewing out of their melting pipes, depressurizing the network that also supplies the hydrants. “The water was leaking out of the system,” he said.3 days ago"
seems the warning system not turned on in time.
why you must slander an entire party out of sheer ignorance is typical of those whose comments are posting to support a losing party and its losing boss, DDT dumb donny trump
Hawaii is run by Democrats
Therefore, it was Democrats that refused to release water
"Hawaii Fires
A State Official Refused To Release Water For West Maui Fires Until It Was Too Late
The fight over water is nothing new on Maui. But the impact on the county's ability to battle fires is coming clear.
With wildfires ravaging West Maui on Aug. 8, a state water official delayed the release of water that landowners wanted to help protect their property from fires. The water standoff played out over much of the day and the water didn’t come until too late.
The dispute involved the Department of Land and Natural Resources’ water resource management division and West Maui Land Co., which manages agricultural and residential subdivisions in West Maui as well as Launiupoko Irrigation Co., Launiupoko Water Co., Olowalu Water Co. and Ha’iku Town Water Association.
DLNR delayed releasing water requested by West Maui Land Co. to help prevent the spread of fire, sources familiar with the situation said."
You btch that I smear an entire party and then turn around and smear an entire party.
I am awfully rough on republicans. I would fire over have or 2/3rds of them. i would also fire 90% to 95% of Democrats. Unlike you I am equal opportunity.
Dem officials Fcked over Lahaina residents.
you are foolish
google and find out why the water ran out: the Dems did NOT turn it off
you are fucking stupid
Projections for Hawaii’s climate future are raising concerns about fire risk, ecosystems and freshwater supplies for homes and agriculture.
Hawaii's climate future: Dry regions get drier with global warming, increasing fire risk − while wet areas get wetter
They named the official that refused the water request. It is a very specific charge.
About rising temperatures. Temperatures have been this high before and higher within record history well before ICE.
Anyone studying Viking age learned that Greenland use to be warmer and the Viking used to grow a lot of crops before the weather became what it is today.
They also lean than in the 7th and 8th centuries they had vineyards in England. they do not have them today.
You just a dumb fck city slicker of no account.
Telling people who know what a tree line is, what the corn line is where you can grow wheat or only can grow barley, where you do not, is plain stupid.
A dishonest, stupid viado such as yourself does not realize that if you study American Indian cultures of the past, you know which tribes planted corn and where. you also know the growing season needed for corn.
A stupid puta merda like yourself makes Joseph Stalin and Uncle Adolph look honest and pillars of the community
You cannot make this stuff up!
"Beau Biden went on to die (of cancer in the United States, not in Iraq, as Joe Biden has repeatedly lied) and the Biden clan decided that the best way to memorialize the man who let a child rapist walk was to set up the Beau Biden Foundation for the Protection of Children. The foundation, currently holding its ‘Child Protection Classic’ at the DuPont Country Club, became famous when laptops bearing its sticker turned up filled with pornographic materials featuring its chairman, Hunter, including allegations of supposed inappropriate behavior with underage girls."
So does this foundation do what it purported is about or the exact opposite?
very sinful place goes 2 hell with the help from the wind
just like that people lost 5 million
I have just heard from a survivor friend there and he tells me there are hundreds of dead who have not yet been made public until such time as they can be identified. That means that the current figure of some 100 people only refers to fully identified dead.
Idiots
here is what is happening.
War next year.
This fire was intentional.
Maui will be used as a redoubt of the Elite Blobbers.
The fire was used to cleanse the area and allow for buy-up of the land .
Watch what is put in there In the next 6 months. Guarantee that it will not be single family homes. Those who lost their homes will be shipped to the big island.
This ties in with a seemly unrelated bit of news.
George Soros and the Soros Open Society Foundation are pulling all investment out of Europe.
Now why would Georgie do that? Well, if the place is going to be destroyed and you now it....you pull all your money out....then you get to re-inverst when all those EU people have nothing but ashes. You will make a killing.
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