Wall Street Journal: For Palestinians Trapped in Gaza, There Is No Way Out
Palestinians and foreign nationals in the Gaza Strip—which is running short of electricity, food, fuel and water—are trying to flee the enclave ahead of an anticipated Israeli ground invasion but are finding there is no way to leave.
International pressure is building on Egypt to open its border crossing with Gaza to a potential exodus of its two million residents—something that Egypt’s government has resisted for years, wary that militants will join civilians and create security problems for Egypt and arguing that an exodus could threaten the integrity of Palestinian territory.
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WNU Editor: I hope I am wrong, but my gut is telling me that this is what is going to happen .... Israel-Palestine war: Fear of 'second Nakba' if human corridor opened with Egypt (Middle East Eye).
With All Border Crossings Closed, 2.3 Million Palestinians Cannot Escape Gaza
Egypt urges Israel to stop bombing Rafah crossing to allow aid delivery -- Times of Israel
Israel dropped bombs near a Gaza border crossing packed with civilians who'd followed officials' pleas to flee: reports -- Business Insider
As Deaths Soar in Gaza From Israeli Strikes, Egypt Offers Aid, but No Exit -- DNYUZ/New York Times
Egypt facilitating aid flights to Sinai for besieged Gaza -- Reuters
Gazans Trying to Flee War Have Egypt Weighing Aid and Security -- Bloomberg
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The Egyptians need to put their army on the border.
Erect fences , minefields and obstacle belts. Block any and all refugees trying to cross the border.
Why?
Because all the Israelis are trying to do is transfer the problems they have made over to the Egyptians.
The Egyptians have enough of their own problems and do not need any more.
If the Egyptians allow this to happen, then they are fools.
Sisi can always be replaced with someone more cooperative. Maybe this whole offensive will have to wait for something like that to happen.
Egypt allowed the smuggling of weapons into Gaza.
Those 2,3 million Gazans could move to Russia. Russia needs more people and many of them are fighting age.
If the Gazans crossed into Egypt and got a ticket to Helsinki or Tblisi, they could walk over the Russian border and live where they want. Russia is dying. Putin think he can win by wearing the Ukrainians down with human wave attacks.
The Russian losses is really sad.
Since the Russians are attacking, their deaths are necessary. The burn rate is terrible.
Putin taking hunting pictures, riding horseback, playing hockey, riding a motorcycle or practicing Judo did not bother me.
What bothers me is that he did not wargame this out. He could have had subordinates in the MoD conduct wargames and they reported back. Obviously, they failed. He failed. You cannot be a subject matter expert on everything, but on things that are really important you have to reach a certain threshold IOT tell if your subordinates are giving you shit.
The original Jane could have done a better job.
Freaking failure.
Shit. Russian soldiers traveling inn or on a BMP form Vodyane to Pisky were hit. they were retreating, because they certainly were not going toward the Ukrainian Army.
The thrust north form Vodyane was the southern pincer. Obviously, it fucking failed.
How are the Ukrainians doing. Looks pretty good. They were hitting the Russians hard as the Russians were retrograding, retreating or routing.
So I asked myself "Why should the soldiers head for Pisky. Why not hold Vodyane?"
Supposing they dismounted and dug in at Vodyane? Sure they would or could get hit by artillery and drones. How much? I do not know. But that is not what first came to mind. What came to mind was if they dug in and attempted to hold Vodyane, would they be supplied with food? I think not.
Did they think about holding? Did they have a commander around to tell them to hold or that if they did they would be "in supply"?
During WW2 and into the Soviet era they were not a lot of radios in tanks. The older tanks are being retrofitted with thermal sight s and other stuff. Radios? Do not know, but it is an important thing to look into.
Another observation. The Russian soldiers are not on death ground nor are they victorious. No wonder they do not really want to fight. Has Putin read Sun Tzu? I have and it was disappointing. Understanding some of it can be hard but other items are immediately crystal. with all the things Putin knows how to do, he is an intelligent person. Very intelligent. Beyond question. But he is not wise.
Skods
This is great stuff. You should write science fiction. Where do you get your information from? This stuff is better than Fractured Fairy Tales.
Swaggerbutt,
I intend to write a play. I am studying Berthold Brecht's failure "Mother Courage".
But what I came here to post is that the Russian position has collapsed. Now it get interesting.
Now over the next 15 months the denizens of the White House will all be weighed, measured and in all likelihood found wanting.
I have a real hard time understanding someone like Anthony Blinken. But generalizing corporate, federal and military ascension pipelines to the State Department and to Congressional staffers, it makes sense to me now that a man as flawed and stupid as Blinken is a feature not a bug. We shall see over the next 15 months, but I think I will be proven right.
Maybe you will be
We will see.
And you are right about old Blinker. What a waste of oxygen.
We will see about the "collapse of the Russian Positions". Give it a few days. If you are correct, I will wish congratulations.
take care.
The blob and one of the "Powers that be". admit the truth
Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger says it was a "grave mistake" for Germany to allow so many migrants in, warning that it creates a "pressure group" in a country — just as Germany has seen pro-Hamas celebrations in the streets.
"It was a grave mistake to let in so many people of totally different culture and religion and concepts because it creates a pressure group inside each country that does that," the 100-year-old former U.S. diplomat said in an interview with Germany’s Welt TV.
Diversity is strength? Bullshit
This is the biggest lie of the 21st century. Unless you live in a HIGHLY DISCIPLINED society, diversity , especially UN-ASSIMILATED DIVERSITY is a weakness . A debilitating cancerous weakness for any society.
On a societal level, Go woke, Go broke takes on a whole larger meaning.
Yea thats right...how is that diversity working for you in Israel/Palestine right now?
So they did not even unmounted?
Drove to the front . Had losses.
Went back. Had some more losses..
Pisky to Vodyane Had Losses
Vodyane to Pisky had losses
So on WABC, Mark Levin or the show before his reported that several countries had special offices (with permission I assume of the Israelis) came in to rescue their citizens. I find that hard to believe.
But not the United States.
There has to be the biggest PUSSIES in the White House. Threaten their paycheck or their political power in the American system they will fight you to the death. anything else and they are pussies.
you can bet that delta and ST 6 have already deployed. The Ford has more than just airplanes on it.
Will this assets be used? That is up to the jews. Their country, their call.
The US can try to pressure them to let us in. But the Israelis look at us as some kind of step brother that they have to tolerate. Doubt they will let us in.
a look at the Gaza border.
Input For your individual analysis
Here’s what commander of the Kerem Shalom Battalion, who knows the area in detail, wrote…
Something here doesn’t add up to me!!! This is a mystery that I can’t find an answer to.
I happen to know how things work in Gaza and on the border. I was the commander of the Kerem Shalom sector (Rafih), I was in charge of the Kissuf sector, I know the perimeter fence very well, I know how the army works there. I was in the Shatti refugee camp in Gaza, I was in charge of the Jibaliya refugee camp, I would make ambushes on the fence and deep in the area. I met Gazans, ate and breathed Gaza.
The obstacle is built so that even a fox cannot pass it:
Set alerts according to 3 levels of pressure. She must alert when she is cut. There are 24/7 forces that are responsible for arriving within a few minutes, if not seconds, to the point where there is an alert in the fence. Every day do at least one penetration practice. Each subdivision has a standby squad whose role is to increase the force in an emergency situation. Observations scattered along the border cover every inch of it. The female observers are champions in identification. They don’t miss. They detect movement even before it even approaches the obstacle – day and night.
At problematic points (dead areas) they place a tank with observation and detection capabilities, and a terrifying firepower. In some cases snipers are deployed in the field.
Every day before dawn there is a “dawn alert” procedure. At this hour all the forces are awake (in this case also the hour when hundreds of terrorists entered Israel). The night shift alternates with the day shift. The commander of each force inspects the axis to make sure there were no infiltrations during the night. Trackers that move on the axis know how to recognize traces. They know who crossed the fence, how much and even when.
Each scenario has a clear procedure. For example, a procedure for infiltrating terrorists, a procedure for taking hostages. Everything is written in blood and has been proving itself for years.
There are several other layers of security that this is not the place to talk about. In short, we are talking about an obstacle that proves itself for years and years.
So how the hell does a Palestinian tractor move towards the fence without anyone reacting to it?
How did the tractor manage to sabotage the fence for a long hour and open access to Israel without anyone reacting to it?
How did hundreds of terrorists and civilians cross the barrier without anyone on our side lifting a finger?
How did terrorists arrive on foot and in vehicles, armed from head to toe, to dozens of Israeli settlements, without any reaction from our side?
How did hundreds of terrorists stay in Israeli territory for long hours, shoot hundreds of Israelis, loot property, without there being even a single reaction on our side?
How did it happen that hundreds of terrorists kidnapped dozens of Israelis, surprised soldiers, officers when they were not ready, and kidnapped them to Gaza, without anyone stopping them?
How is it that one bullet was not fired?
How did all this happen under our noses?
Where did an entire division go?
Where did 3 brigades go?
Who swallowed 9 battalions?
What happened to 36 companies?
Where did an entire regular infantry brigade go that usually outnumbers the elite?
Where were all the reserve battalions that augment the regular army?
Where did thousands of soldiers go???
Someone here needs to provide explanations!!
here ya go Skods. A counter punch to your anti Russian propaganda. From your buddies Strana on the Ukie side !!!!
Yesterday's evening summary by Strana.news described the bad state most of Ukraine's brigades are in (machine translation):
Reports of the beginning of massive attacks by the Russian army coincided with the appearance of an increasing amount of information about significant problems with the offensive potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
As we have already written, ex-adviser to the President's Office Alexey Arestovich called on the Ukrainian command to go on the defensive and abandon the offensive, which, in his opinion, is hopeless with the current balance of forces.
Also in social networks, a video from a Ukrainian military man was distributed, who talks about problems in the "Guards Offensive" brigades due to heavy losses and poor organization.
"I communicate with different military personnel from different branches of the armed forces and, in principle, I understand that cp@ka is everywhere. But I did not expect that in the rampant "Offensive Guard" we will meet with those mistakes that even the most meaty brigades no longer make," says a National Guard soldier in Tiktok.
Then he describes various problems in specific teams. Let's list the main ones:
Platoon commanders in critical areas, including on the Zaporozhye front, are appointed junior lieutenants without military experience and knowledge.
Many fighters have not received sufficient training;
Coordination at the company and battalion level is almost nonexistent. Maximum-squads and platoons;
Huge losses - "three companies enter, only a few go back";
"One village took an infantry company in a short period of time. 120 plus or minus people," says the military man.
The Russian Federation has many times more forces and resources - "no matter how strong you are, you will be stupidly beaten by the crowd";
In some cases, the assault fighters go on foot - 7 km in equipment for 35 kg.
Other reports have confirmed that the Ukrainian military has long lost its middle officer and NCO corps. Smart kids fresh from senior high school are leading platoons of men mostly in 30s or 40s and 50s. Brigade commanders give direct orders down to platoons because the staff of battalions and companies in between is no longer there.
The Ukraine lacks artillery. The Russian counter battery fire has become more and more intense.
The advantage the HIMARS systems with their 70 kilometer reach had given Ukraine is also gone. The U.S. delivered HIMARS systems, which previously had been positioned safely out of reach of Russian counter-battery fire, are now easy to reach targets.
Egypt needs to allow all willing Gazan civilians into a contained area with appropriate food, shelter and water. Call it a "Second Nakba", fine. I think its inevitable and it needs to happen. But temporarily so. This will give the IDF the ability and time necessary to excavate every tunnel, pit, cave and basement occupied by Hamas. Kill every one of them. Then very carefully vet every single man, woman and child and let them back in. And they can then live at peace with a peaceful neighbor.
Kinda like what happened in the West Bank. They recognized Israel and allowed peace to happen.
😂 all bullshit. Spam comments are getting bad these days
You lost us at himars , the one area here ukraine is increasing its dominance is with artillery
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/eu-funded-water-pipelines-despite-hamas-boast-it-could-turn-them-into-rockets/ar-AA1i09SX
Egypt wants nothing to do with the Palis. For the same reason Jordan doesn't, who kicked them out. And Lebanon, who also kicked them out. They are nothing but trouble wherever they go. And here they are again, in trouble. And they caused it. At the very least, no power or water returned to Gaza until the hostages are released. The Palis are good for one thing only - fodder for the radical Muslim agenda machine. The other Muslims don't give a shit about the Palis, but hey they are a handy excuse to kill more infidels. When they aren't busy killing each other, that is.
^ +1,000,000,000
"As Brazil, Spain, Poland and other nations fly their stranded nationals out of war-hit Israel, the Biden administration is once again letting Americans fend for themselves as they did in Afghanistan."
Brasil did, but the US did not. The US is a failed state.
@ThankaDemocrat
Joe Biden and his puppet masters will not or cannot evacuate American citizens from Israel, which is a war zone.
Some where, some one (a lot of someones) are looking to bring all 2.3 million Gazans to the Us
Think for the commissions for C-suite of Catholic and Lutheran Social Services. why the CEOs stand to get Rolls Royces for their good work!
So Ben Gurion airport is being rocketed by Planet of the Apes. You could always bring out citizens by sea. We have a carrier group there. The group is just for show. Shiny
Pedo Biden leaves Americans to pay their way out of Israel
Pedo Biden showered with his daughter
Trump would save the day.sure.
He didn't shower with his daughter.
ALERT: FLASH TRAFFIC
Ukrainian High Command: Office of the General STAFF.
SLAVA
Message Follows:
Here are the lies we have to fight in our daily struggle as a people!
From Traitors to the Mother Land!!......
Ukraine’s counteroffensive is not going according to schedule, Kirill Budanov – head of the KIev's Main Intelligence Directorate – admitted in an interview with the Ukrainskaya Pravda newspaper published on Thursday.
According to the spy chief, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are not just behind schedule but have completely “fallen out of it” after several things did not go as “smoothly” as Kiev had hoped. He refused to explain what “falling out of schedule” actually meant, stating that everyone should “draw their own conclusion.”
Previously, Budanov had said in an interview with the same outlet in February that Kiev had every chance to end the ongoing Russian-Ukrainian conflict this year. Now, however, he admitted that the picture has changed. He did not, however, elaborate on the specific reasons, stating that “most of the explanations for this are state secrets.”
This is all LIES!!!
Budanov is a REVISIONIST and suspected PUTIN LOVER!!
The Glorious Armed Forces of Ukraine will never be defeated.!!!~
Under the immortal leadership of Commander Zelinski, we shall defeat all foes and defeat the Orkish enemy with ease.
Do not believe these insane inferences of defeat. !!!!
These are lies to poison your soul and sow the winds of defeatism.
LATEST REPORT FROM THE FRONT! TRUTH and LIGHT for ALL!!!!
Our voluntary youth brigades of 12-16 year olds are moving to the front where they will ensure complete victory for all our people!!!!
Our artillery is brand new and out matches the Orkies at a rate of 10-1.
Our Leopard tanks are being repaired and returned to service at the incredible pace of only a four month repair time.
Our Newly improved artillery tubes are made of the highest grade of hopium available and cannot wear out.
We have more than enough HIMARS ammunition to destroy any and all enemy forces in less than 5 fire missions a day.
Our valiant warriors now move with complete stealth in which they travel 10 to 17 kilometers to the front on foot, with 60 pounds of kit and destroy the enemy forces. The stamina and resilancy of our newly drafted cohort of 50 and 60 year olds cannot be underestimated.
SLAVA!!
Our airforce is unbeatable. They are currently bombing Novosibirsk, Irkutsk, Moscow and that traitor Budanov's headquarters in Lviv.
We will ever be victorious.
We have so many aircraft that we dominate all airspace in Europe and Asia. We have such air superiority that Comrade Zelinski can afford to dispatched the Ghost of Kiev to Gaza to bomb the wretched Palestinians.
The news from our troops and comrades is to the inevitable victory. Pay no attention to nay sayers and defeatists. The Americans and Europeans will support us until the bitter end. Our economy and 5 year plan is bringing prosperity to our people. Currently our arms and military supply exports, by private individuals, exceeds all expectations!!
There is no other out come but Victory!!
Death to Russia
Death to Putin'
'Death to the Defeatist
Death to those who say our government is corrupt!
SALVA Ukraine
SLAVA the Glorious masses of our victorious dead
SLAVA Our leaders who prosper and bring that prosperity to thier families and friends
SALVA UKRAINE
ALL Hail Victory!!
The Sons and Daughters of Bandera and His WWII Glorious Allies will never be defeated and their legacy will last a 1000 years.
Message ENDS
Staff. SBU GHQ, AFU GHQ, Kiev. 1630hrs 10/13/2023
thanks to all for these helpful remarks. i have learned a lot.
I am telling you something bigger is going to happen soon
I feel it in my bones
I hope u have a water spring nearby for survival u fools
The image of God is no more
Respect existence body and soul u fools
Wow, The Ukrainians are doing great!! I would have assumed that they were getting thier butts kicked. Boy, was I wrong.
Body Bags & Food Drive
From Kyiv in 3 days to a "deficit in body bags in Donetsk": Russian volunteer urgently needs help with purchasing corpse bags for soldiers currently assaulting in Avdiivka. They also need food, but this must only come in closed packages,
because "you don't know if someone's going to add something to it".
Are you jacking off into those meals sent to the front line?
No comrade, I am adding protein!
People , of course are not islands, they do not stand alone, they have families and friends that support them.
So when you see an article like the one below.... it begs the question...If you have 10s of thousands of men fleeing the draft. How many more Ukrainians have now turned against this war, but are not saying anything?
Therefore The comment that zelinski is hated and his government is feared by his own people , with this kind of "fleeing action " being an example. would show that type of thinking , may, may.... not be far from the truth.
Article.....
Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian men are dodging the draft amid the ongoing mobilization, Deputy Defense Minister Natalya Kalmykova has said. She added that the authorities are working on legislation that will “help settle this issue.”
Speaking to Ukraine’s Rada TV on Friday, Kalmykova said that “unfortunately, we see a lot of situations… when people don’t want and plan to avoid mobilization somehow, the need to defend their country.” She claimed that the number of draft dodgers amounts to “tens, hundreds of thousands of people.”
End article
Arab nations always have been sympathetic to their Arab brothers, but how many of them have taken them in, given them a home, but only in refugee camps? In the Gaza conflict we now have this:
1. Israel tells Gazans to get out
2. the UN says there is no place they can go to.
3. Hamas tells them to stay put.
11:24
Adiivka action was interesting. It featured Storm-Z units presumably with barrier troops behind them. And Russia still failed.
Storm Z really?
You better not have a Mule or you will be in deep shit.
You have to ask yourselves the question.
What right does the Israelis have to tell the Palestinians to "get out".
Does not the Gaza belong to the Palestinians.???
Maybe we can tell all the blacks to go back to Africa. After the BLM riots, why not?
That is ridiculous. But then again. maybe it is not.
I mean, the Turks were quite successful with the Armenians and Ethnic cleansing does work. Look at the American Indian. I think he might agree.
This whole idea of cleansing Gaza is nuts,
They make it sound like a clearing operation in the A Shau valley in Vietnam. That worked out real well too.
On second thought , what a great idea..The Israelis should name this clearing operation "Dewey Canyon" or "Apache Snow"
The 173rd is over there in Vicenza right now, really close. We can jump them in.
What an fing abortion.
Hey fucker. Ya you 11:43
Some people argue the Germans had it coming, because they themselves did not depose Hitler.
If this is true, the same can be argued about the Gazans.
the Israelis told the Gazans to get out in order to go forward with their attempt to invade, rescue hostages, and knock out Hamas. They were simply warning them of what was coming.
12:37 simply used an ad hominem attack. You did not dispute that the fact that a standard had been used against Germany. You did not debate whether the standard was a good one. If it is a good standard, you did not debate that it should be applied across the board.
You will face the same judgment as Goebbels.
hey you at some number or other
yep you
you suck
^ Still MORE AD HOMINEM
you do not debate someone whose posts solely consists of ad hominem
add hominy? what does that do?
Question remains.
Does Gaza belong to the Palestinians, or does it not?
And if it does , what right do the Israelis have in telling them to leave?
And no, the germans did not have it coming because they did not depose hitler.
What are you thinking? All those krauts in 1938 were supposed to have ESP and predict the future for the next 2-5 years?. That is fucked up like polio , if that is what you think.
How is an 75 year old or a 10 year old "have it coming". when they do not even know what the hell is going on.
You all like mass punishment I guess,
Lets take away all the guns because you have some nut cases out there...
Lets restrict free speech because some people abuse it.
Lets kill all of people x because a few are idiots.
lets blow up a neighborhood full of people because joey the terrorist lived on that block.
The germans got the snot beat out of them because their county's leadership led them into a war.
They did not "get punished". because "they deserved it" or had it coming.
You think the average peasant in Bavaria or a coal miner in Silesia had any choice in the matter?
Yea , sure, hitler went down there and asked for their opinion right?
Get real.
the krauts got led down a dark path. What ? You think you are different? Look at the USA. Do you agree with the perverts running the show or the open borders or the dementia patient we have as a leader.
the point is:
Some times, as a common person: you get stuck by fate, timing and circumstances. And guess what , it is none of your doing.
So to say every single one of the Palestinians in the GAZA strip need to be punished is BS.
Hamas Yes.
Grandpa Abdul and little 3 year old little Fatima? no.
The germans ...the same thing. They did not have it coming.
That is why they have "all the laws of warfare" and "international human rights laws".
To include, laws against genocide and for crimes against humanity. Your remember Nuremberg?
The main point being......
So when one group of jerks says that a different group of jerks "has it coming" the law forbids mass slaughter and inhumanity to your brother man.
If not, then throw all that human rights shit out the window and send in the Uruk-hai and the Nazgul.
Yup.
You left out the part of warning people with social media , noise makers, and ph calls to vacate. Would you like israel to arrange a uber ?
Sshhh youre blinding him with facts
Tthanks for all the useful comments. this has helped me to think seriously about the issue.
No, no uber.
The Israelis have no right to demand them to vacate.
But If the jews want to attack , they can.
They are required to follow the requirements of international law. No excessive use of force. No indiscriminate use of force or killing of civilians.
Very simple really.
They are doing that , this isn't Dresden
the truth of modern struggles: there really are no rules of law.
There are only written rules to show what would have been ok to do and not to do.
Be careful going down that road.
Because in the end... anyone has a problem? Where does it lead.... Sending in the Uruk-hai and the Nazgul.
that road is well marked and now look at what gets done worldwide in just about any and all conflicts. rules of law applied only by those not involved.
Nationalism goes 2 hell soon please
People u better go and beware enemys everywheres
All you in the military are Doomed over a idea of nationalism sucker's
666 is rising 2024
This is not mine , it is by a guy named Taki. You might of heard of him. a lot of common sense.
Start.....
Which brings me to the present tragedy. The only thing I can say with conviction is that a Palestinian mother cries as bitterly over the death of her child as an Israeli mother does. People seem to forget that, depending on whose side they’re on. Who is worse, an Israeli religious zealot who shoots a stone-throwing Palestinian youth in the West Bank, or a Hamas gunman who executes an Israeli teenager whose only crime is to attend a rave?
Of course Israel has a right to exist and prosper, but so do Palestinians. Whose land is it, Israel’s or Palestine’s? Here is where all the world’s statesmen, wise men and women, experts, and know-it-alls tend to stumble. Who is to blame for the tragedy of today? The Brits? The Arabs? The Americans? I’d say all three, starting with the Balfour Declaration.
Living in the biggest outdoor prison that is Gaza does not tend to encourage rational behavior. Seventy-five years of Israeli occupation does tend to encourage violence. However restrained Israeli retributions to violence have been in the past, I’m afraid this time Netanyahu will go overboard. The great general Rabin, assassinated by an Israeli bigot, would I am certain seize this moment and take the high road. But what do I know? I am only an observer who knows the area as well as anyone but has no power to do anything about it.
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you neglect to note:
The UN, saddled with the area after the British gave it up, declared two states! thus Israel in 1948. However the Arab nations invaded and did not accept an Arab state. Further wars cost them more and more land. It is a mess. But then read the charter for Hamas and see what their goal is. Then check out how they teach the very young to hate Israel and Jews.
Yes read their charter. And who were the people who supported this group of religious misfits over the PLO.
It was the Israeli government .. as Late as 2018 Benny was telling his partners that they will continue to support Hamas, because that is part of thier strategy.
It is insane.
And yes they teach hate. That is one reason the Israelis should have shut them down years ago.
But don't think the Israelis are saints. You did not see the pictures of Israeli kids spitting on christian missionaries a few weeks ago? How about the jewish nut case who went into a church and busted up the statue of the Virgin Mary?
These are Semitic peoples. Not all of them, but they do have groups in thier culture where Their religious fanaticism is based on blood ties and is full hate. If You are not a muslim or you are not a Jew, then you are some kind of human animal...pure and simple.
Ever visit Bahai central he for that faith in Israel? or Christian places in Jerusalem?
It is always a mistake to lift one or a few incidents and suggest that stands for it all. The Israelis that spat upon the Christians had later been arrested. Check out how many Muslim Pals have married Israeli Jews. Sure there is hate etc but heck do you have a loving relationship with all sorts of people in your nation? recall the use of Inner City simply means Black ghetto.
I have visited Christian churches in Jerusalem and the Western wall. I had no problems with any Israeli.
I could not visit the Dome of the Rock, Muslims being what they are.
I will keep this very simple:
In 1948 the UN took the British Mandate and gave two parcels of land, one to the Arabs and one to the Jews, so each could have a homeland. This was land occupied by both peoples. Israel created a state. The Arabs from surrounding countries (r6) invaded the new state of Israel. A second invasion in 1967 gave Israel control over the West Bank and Gaza. Thus far nothing has come of the attempt to create two states again.
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