Deputy Pentagon Press Secretary Sabrina Singh Conducts Press Briefing. Photo by Petty Officer 2nd Class Alexander Kubitza
Business Insider: Pentagon says there are no limits on how Israel uses US weapons as death toll climbs amid airstrikes in Gaza
* The Pentagon says there are no limits on how Israel uses US-provided weapons in their attacks in Gaza.
* A spokesperson said it's up to the IDF how it uses the weapons.
* Israeli airstrikes have devastated the Gaza Strip, and a new ground offensive could do further damage.
The US is not putting any limits on how Israel uses US-provided weapons in its bloody war against Hamas that has killed thousands of Palestinian civilians and destroyed parts of the Gaza Strip, the Pentagon says as the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) ramps up its retaliatory attacks in the area.
On Monday, Deputy Pentagon Press Secretary Sabrina Singh told that "we are not putting any limits on how Israel uses weapons that [are] provided," Voice of America National Security Correspondent Jeff Seldin reported.
"We're not putting any constraints on that," she said.
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Update: No limits on Israeli weapon use in Gaza despite more than 3,500 children killed (Arab News).
WNU Editor: To the surprise of no one, this "no limits" has consequences .... Health ministry in Hamas-run Gaza says war death toll hits 9,488 (AFP).
21 comments:
What a joke
So there is no oversight or responsibility attached? At this point in time you might as well throw Nuremberg and the precedents that came out of there, out the window.
Obviously Israel is going to lose barring supernatural Divine intervention. Israel has ALWAYS been restrained by the US. I'm skeptical that anything has changed.
If Israel had nukes which they don't perhaps they'd have a chance. The bluff is unfortunately about to be called and raised.
If Israel had nukes which they don't.
B Poster is not a crackpot.
Explain yourself.
B poster
as always good to see you posting
But you are quite mistaken. Israel has nukes. Has had them for about 50 or so years. How? They stole most of the material from the US and just did the physics work.
Hot woman huh..., pentagon got one right for now
11:01, I have read that Jews are disproportionally represented as nobel prize winners in science and medicine. That may have something to do with how they got nukes. They are also very good at reverse engineering our weapon systems and improving on them.
10:08, part of the Geneva convention's laws on warfare allows for proportionality. If you have a sniper in an apartment building shooting at you, you can blow up the apartment. But you cannot blow up the entire block. I have read that the Israelis have constant overhead RECORDED surveillance of gaza. Every square inch. They are also interrogating captives who might be giving up locations of weapons or tunnels. I suspect that if the Israelis were put to the test in court and had to justify every weapon dropped, they could show the necessity. They are definitely flattening large parts of Gaza. I wonder if that speaks to just how entrenched Hamas is in that town and not to wanton Genocide.
As for Nuremburg, Hamas is not guided by Nuremburg or Geneva. Those are infidel laws. how does Israel fight a war by 20th century standards against those who use the rules of warfare by 11th century Viking standards and survive?
as for your last part, it does not matter, this are now international laws and you are required to obey the law. No matter what the other side dies. Thus u=is about your actions, not theirs. Are you a savage then>]?
As far as the concept of justified use of force or proportionality. That is a case by case basis. You bomb a refugee camp to kill one guy? Not proportional. you are saying that your requirements are more important than the lives of the refugees? That is sweet. We could have real fun with that one.
Like I said before, These people deserve each other. The settlers in the West Bank are shooting people like it's a shooting gallery. And the muzzles...welel this has just begun for them.
It is just going to get worse. Best to stay out of this mess. The best analogy I can gibe for the Jew vs Arab thing, It is a tar baby. getting involved makes no one happy and raises the risks to yourself
These people (both sides). mad thier beds , let them figure it out.
As for war crimes, either you follow the law or you do not.
But this whole situation has a large drop of irony about it.
about 70 years ago there was a group of people who were penned up in a city and treated like scum. So they rose up against their oppressive masters and fought.
The masters did not like that, and went into the people's area with armed troops and proceeded to kill them all.'
Sound familiar?
They have around 9 Nukes, worlds worst kept secret..intentionally
you need to be more precise instead of tossing oujt guessing games who what when where why
You do realise the high casualties at the refugee camp was because the target building collapsed surrounding apartments die to the foundations weekend by HAMAS tunnelling under them.
"How does Israel fight a war by 20th century standards against those who use the rules of warfare by 11th century Viking standards and survive?"
The Geneva Convention is a joke. It needs teeth behind it. which means it needs power.
If the EU gives up in Ukraine it shows it does not have power.
Look at how many kids have been kidnapped. Surely that is not allowed in the Convention. Where are the bleeding heart liberals?
Russia is engaged in ethnic cleansing and nothing...
Ron's comment on the apartment and the sniper is a good faith effort. It shows an understanding of how the Convention is applied.
Now what if that same sniper went form apartment to apartment? After 5 or so apartments the building is junk. You know the sniper is not going to wait for return fire. He is going to shoot and scoot.
"You do realise the high casualties at the refugee camp was because the target building collapsed surrounding apartments die to the foundations weekend by HAMAS tunnelling under them."
Hamas had geotechincal engineers make all the proper site surveys and studies /sarc
"Experts believe the Jewish state possesses 90 plutonium-based nuclear warheads today and has enough plutonium in its stockpile to develop 100-200 weapons if necessary."
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/big-question-how-many-nuclear-weapons-does-israel-have-207073
I hope several of those are targeted against its adversary Russia.
If defenses are thin, it could be like Torpedo Squadron 8.
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The Geneva convention has no power.?
Should they just drop the charges agains putin? It does work when the "rules based order" wants it to.
Example, look at the war crimes trials after Bosnia.
The problem is that the Geneva convention has become an item of "selected enforcement". and not a means of enforcing the "rule of law."
That is what happens when you have a "rules based order" and not a "rule of law order",
The people who Make the rules, either do not tell you what they rules are, or selectively enforce those rules that are known..
Examples:
Are you saying that The Geneva convention has no power, therefore should they just drop the charges agains Putin?
How about placing charges against Budanov? And therefore the whole zelinski regime for supporting him and not bringing him to justice?
How about the doctrine of excessive force in Israel
Or the doctrine of limiting civilian casualties?
My point is, either you have laws or you do not. Either you treat all people in the same light or you do not.
If you do not, then. ok
Then It is what it was 10000 years ago. Masters and slaves, the weak are subservient to the strong. All men are not equal. Might makes right.
Basically anything goes, and the Great Helmsman was right.
And Stop the goody-two shoe act of we are "civilized and humanitarian". , "With freedom and JUSTICE for ALL". .....
No, in reality, this is the iron fist and the Empire...Live the Dream. Embrace the suck
and remember......
All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.
It's believed by most pundits that Israel has nukes. They've been opaque about it hence it's a "secret." I think they may be bluffing. I hope they do have them. As a born again Christian I'm a big believer in supernatural intervention.
9:22
If Putin wins what happens to the Geneva Convention?
If Xi wins what happens to the Geneva Convention?
Is the Geneva Convention being applied across the board? I think not. It has 3 main effects.
One is top hamstring Western soldiers and threaten them by JAG Officers (JAG OFFS) with little to no skin in the game. First come the grunts, then the logistics guys, then the MWR officers, then the JAG OFFs. It is way so many scions of political families, who want a career in politics too, choose to be a JAG OFF.
Notice anything about Hunter? Prince Harry complains in his Book "Spare" that he was the spare. Harry does not have as bad as Hunter. Beau was the political scion of House Biden or is it Harkonen, I forget. So Beau got the JD and went went to JAG fork and knife school at University of Virginia. Very military, if I say so myself. He shipped out to Iraq for 7months in Iraq where he was awarded the bronze Stare medal and where he died in 2015 fighting ISIS or something.
Well Beau was diagnosed with terminal cancer in 2013 or he was mortally wounded by ISIS, so next up is Hunter. He becomes a JAG OFF in 2013 at age 43 barely out of diapers. Did Hunter want to be a JAG OFF. he would have done it between ages 22 to 30, if he had. I think his father coaxed, cajoled and threatened him into accepting the offer by the Navy.
Yup, JAG OFFs are necessary. they are some good ones. but...
Another effect of The Geneva Convention is to give the politics-lite crowd a warm fuzzy and lets them preen a little whenever they happen to think about it, which is not often.
The last effect is to give young rakes of the political set some windmills to safely tilt at. They can safely prosecute down on their luck Balkans or African leaders or war lords, while ensconced in the fleshpot of Europe.
How many people have been prosecuted? Can you name them? Is Africa better or safer for having prosecuted a few African leaders/warlords? What is the cost of the bureaucracy in The Netherlands and Belgium?
(1)Kony never went to court. (2)Michelle Obama never got the girls back. (3)Boko Haram never was prosecuted. Boko haram I think is finally being taken care of by some locals. The Africa rift valley is still very violent with lots of rapes, mutilations and murders. Has it gone down? The Hutu Tutsi thing is stupid. You could not tell them apart genetically. Well, maybe. It would come down to 20 genes out of 18,000 and it would be damn hard. If that were not enough ISIS or someone moved in. Where is the Geneva Convention there? Where are the prosecutions? Where are the JAG Offs?
the JAG OFFs are in Virginian. they are not even thinking of packing there bags until the marines go in and some contractor and logistics set up a green zone.
Good comments and responses in this thread. my opinion on the Geneva convention is that it should be followed if you are going to fight the multitude of non-existential wars that have been fought after WW2. But if you are fighting for your existence, no rules. If the Palestinians feel they are in an existential crisis because they live next to Israel and they want access to all of the land in the region, then they should do what is necessary including what they did on Oct 7. If Israel feels they are going to be slaughtered and removed from their homes by the Palestinians, the Israelis should do whatever is necessary.
Israel is an advanced nation with a higher standard of living than the United States. So why is the US giving Israel expensive weapons? Let each nation take care of their own military. Israel can take care of business on its own.
Ron says: "I have read that Jews are disproportionally represented as nobel prize winners in science and medicine."
The reason that Jews are disproportionally represented in Nobel prizes is that Jews are packed onto the Nobel prize committees who determine the award winners.
Well that went well
so I think we all can agree... when push comes to shove and down to the end of it. Only when it is convenient do we follow the law. There is , therefore, no law.
Just a bunch of hypocritical bullshit about human rights.
All your moralization and false heartfelt whining complaints about the Russians bombing the Ukrainians (not even as bad as the Israeli operation) is also just pure bullshit.
Hey but why worry about it? It is the Ukrainians fault. If they were stronger they would not be getting bombed and dying in mass numbers , but they are weak and therefore deserve to die.
So back to square 1......
In reality, the iron fist and the Empire RULES...Live the Dream. Embrace the suck
and remember......
All animals are equal but some are more equal than other
remind me about this later when they put all you Untermenschen in a camp somewhere.
I will give story what it deserves, .......a big yawn.
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