Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy arrives to address the 78th United Nations General Assembly in September.Timothy A. Clary / AFP
NBC: U.S., European officials broach topic of peace negotiations with Ukraine, sources say
The conversations have included very broad outlines of what Ukraine might need to give up to reach a deal with Russia.
WASHINGTON — U.S. and European officials have begun quietly talking to the Ukrainian government about what possible peace negotiations with Russia might entail to end the war, according to one current senior U.S. official and one former senior U.S. official familiar with the discussions.
The conversations have included very broad outlines of what Ukraine might need to give up to reach a deal, the officials said. Some of the talks, which officials described as delicate, took place last month during a meeting of representatives from more than 50 nations supporting Ukraine, including NATO members, known as the Ukraine Defense Contact Group, the officials said.
The discussions are an acknowledgment of the dynamics militarily on the ground in Ukraine and politically in the U.S. and Europe, officials said.
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WNU Editor: Good luck on that. Ukraine President Zelensky and the people around him have made it very clear on what their conditions are to end the war, and those conditions are not even remotely close to what the US and the EU are proposing.
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Ok Mr Fair and balanced and cris .
If the ukies are doing so well and the Russians so poorly, why is the West looking for peace when Russia controls so much of the Ukraine?
The logical thing would be for the West to tell the Ukraine to keep fighting until all territory is recovered and Russia surrenders.
I guess Ukraine is not doing as well as your propaganda said.
BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT EVEN BE TALKING PEACE IF THE UKIES WERE WINNING.
lol
Indications & Warnings
WRONG IMPRESSION: On 25 OCT, attempting to intimidate UKR by testing its nuclear delivery systems, Russia failed to fire an RSM-56 Bulava sub-launched ballistic missile. On 1 NOV, a Russian RS-24 ground based ICBM veered off course and self-destructed.
WNU going to need a blue pill
Indications & Warning
TARGET CONTEXT: Ukrainian FPV videos increasingly show strikes on immobile & abandoned RU armor. This is indicative of RU's failing logistics (which stray vehicles without fuel) and the poor morale of RU tank crews-- who frequently bail from their units in mid-mission.
The Russians are just fucked.
"I have seen Russian APCs running out of gas just two weeks after the invasion. As you know, it is impossible to win a war without logistics. From that time on I knew one thing: this Russian invasion would fail, and...it failed."
Russia is dying.
Out of gas
which stray vehicles without fuel
I do look at the tank, AFV and KIA counts. What I also look at is the truck or fuel vehicle count. I wish fuel vehicles were broken out.
I also look at scatter plots. That tell me a lot about EW and more.
But hey, WNU will have another rousing round of wisdom his father passed on.
Russian locomotives need to be hit. Tearing up track, when Russia has a proficient 30,000 strong force of rail maintainers does not work.
HIT the FUCKING locomotives. Takes longer to clear and repair.
Putin will tell Selenie to take a hike.
You are seeing the images of burned out hulks from past fights of weeks and months ago. 1208. The invasion has not failed yet and it is far from over.
and we know the Russians arerunning out of gas...
Are you nuts? they have more gas and refinery capability than most of the world. you are really lying now. So can you also tell us about Pecos Bill and Paul Bunyan?
"You are seeing the images of burned out hulks"
Hilarious. Scorch mna4rks? None. Blackened No.
Tell you lies to someone else you vatnik pig
"Are you nuts? they have more gas and refinery capability than most of the world. "
that they can pump more ands ship more by existing pipes is one thing Running out of fuel trucks to get it the last 10, 20 or 30 miles to the front is another matter.
Do you want another spin vatnik swine?
It's not a competition between whose propaganda is winning. If that's your take from Chris's views, you are delusional.
108.
so genius , if a vehicle is stopped on the battlefield, how do you know it is out of gas.? Maybe it stalled out, maybe it threw a track, may be the crew took a break and is sleeping in the tree line. You have no idea. To be emphatic about it "had to be out of gas" is your great mistake.
Also, are you now an expert on Battlefield Damage Assessment (BDA)? You have no clue as to what you are seeing or if what was reported is true.
Grow up , you have no combat experience and do not know what the hell are you talking about.
1:08
Thats right, this is not a competition, chris is just lying or has no idea of what he is talking about or a combination of both.
so genius , if a vehicle is stopped on the battlefield, how do you know it is out of gas.? Maybe it stalled out, maybe it threw a track, may be the crew took a break and is sleeping in the tree line.
So now you stopped lying about being burnt out. Slipping a track would show.
Why destroy a tank that has stalled, been abandoned or crew conveniently took a break?
If you cannot recover the vehicles, you make sure that the Russians can't. So whatever the reason, the Orks do not have them anymore for the price of a grenade or cheap drone.
You either get an AAA+ for North Korean propaganda or a FFF- for brains.
LOL WNU
The entire World wants this shit show to be over
And you cite Zelensky as the thing in the way?
Dude...
he won't be around
Cut the lifeline endless cash and equipment supply and lets see how quick Zelensky and his cronies change their minds
god are you stupid. that post was two idea streams
1, fuel
2 bda your burnt out hulks.
so genius , if a vehicle is stopped on the battlefield, how do you know it is out of gas.? Maybe it stalled out, maybe it threw a track, may be the crew took a break and is sleeping in the tree line. You have no idea. To be emphatic about it "had to be out of gas" is your great mistake.
1. the above was about fuel
2. bda
here is you answer to burnt out hulks
Also, are you now an expert on Battlefield Damage Assessment (BDA)? You have no clue as to what you are seeing or if what was reported is true.
your fd-up reply
So now you stopped lying about being burnt out. Slipping a track would show.
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no I am not lying, dip shit.
you just cannot read, as is evident by what I just wrote in this post.
btw
a track that gets thrown....could you see both sides of the vehicle , or did it throw internal or underneath? . but how about the other 2-3 possibilities for that vehicle to be stopped.? crew rest, stalled out or vehicle maintenance. maybe it overheated? you do not know.
you are a fing idiot and plain to see you have no combat experience . They would never send you out on a recon because you have no idea what you are looking at.
dont call me a liar when you have no understanding of what yo are looking at.
or cut Putin's throat and see how fast Russia cries Vodka for all!
vatnik complains about being called a liar. Very rich indeed!
@1:16 PM
Sir, why do you talk like a 5 year old?
Information also appeared that there were at least three strikes on Askold, a Russian small missile ship that was to the south of Kerch.
So one more Kalibr platform out of action for a long time or for good?
Putin going to need more naval lieutenants and seamen.
Promotions are supersonic!
I am speechless
You should be speechless. They will make you a meat battalion mobik or a Lt. or seamen on a Russian ship. Slots are open.
Going to draw you in like a black hole.
Happy exploding!
If you turn a bright green almost incandescent with purple sparkles, when you explode, it would be much appreciated.
Agreed
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You have constantly been the origin of mis information and disjointed thinking.
Sorry but 116 and 235 are pretty much on point. Doing BDA is an art and you have to know what you are looking at. As far as the petrol situation, can you send the source for that, because I have not seen that one.
2:35 PM
not yet toilet trained.
no you are an absolute idiot and liar.
You information is wrong and your obsession with Russia is neurotic at best , but in reality borders on the truly psychotic. Do you take lithium or thorazine?
If not you should.
someone attach a manure bag to 753. it is untrainable
🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I will say this. The Ukraine needs US/NATO troops to win.
Russian aggression? No. From what has happened in the last 20 years, I do not see it. Western aggression thru soft power such as color revolutions, and entrance into NATO? That s a certainty.
So you can send in tropism you want. They will end up slaughtered. And we will be facing WW3. , buts thats ok. Your political objectives will be met and that is all that matters, right?
This smells like propaganda.
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