Thursday, November 9, 2023

U.S. Navy May Extend All Its Nimitz-Class Carriers For Another Deployment

Nimitz-class carriers at sea The first-in-class USS Gerald Ford carrier operated alongside the Nimitz-class USS Dwight D. Eisenhower in October amid high tensions in the Middle East. Credit: Petty Officer 3rd Class Janae Chambers/U.S. Navy  

Aviation Week: U.S. Navy Considers Extending All Its Nimitz-Class Carriers 

The U.S. Navy’s Nimitz-class carriers are about to turn 50. But given the demand for the carrier air wing and delays to the Nimitz-class replacement—the Ford-class—the USS Nimitz (CVN 68) itself is unlikely to retire as soon as expected. 

The Navy’s fiscal 2023 budget has already called to extend the first-in-class CVN 68, commissioned in 1975, for another deployment cycle instead of decommissioning it in 2025 as previously planned. Service officials say the upcoming budget request could include a final decision on extending the next in the class, the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower, beyond its 2027 projected end-of-service date—though extending just that ship likely will not be enough. 

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WNU Editor: The US Navy is also looking to speed-up production of future aircraft carriers .... US Navy mulls timing of new double-carrier award amid Enterprise delay (Defense News).

43 comments:

Mr. Nobody said...

From the rest of the article , if you did not read it.

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The first-in-class USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) is now deployed to the Mediterranean, about two years after it achieved initial operational capability. The Ford was extensively delayed and over budget, commissioning five years before the deployment and 15 years after its naming. Originally projected to cost $10.5 billion, the ship ended up costing $13.3 billion. Though it has advanced capabilities such as the new electromagnetic catapult system and improved weapons elevators, it is not yet able to bring on Lockheed Martin F-35Cs.

See also: USS George Washington Tests New Systems Following Extended Overhaul
U.S. Navy’s Venerable 'COD' Prepares To Fly Off Into The Sunset
The Kennedy (CVN 79) was christened in December 2019 and is scheduled to be delivered in 2025, one year later than its prior expected delivery. The next in the class, the USS Enterprise (CVN 80), has also been affected by labor and supply chain issues, with its delivery date at least a year late as well, now scheduled for 2028.

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This is the issue. with today's current technology and force structure, If you are going to maintain a world wide presence then you need fighter aircraft available to support your operations. Since the commitment is world wide, land based facilities for jets is often not available. So carriers are needed.

But as you can see, the maintenance and the construction time of these behemoths is large. The build times, re-fit times and repair times are also horribly slow and extremely costly.

Compounding the problem is the debate that in the age of hypersonic, is a boat as big as a carrier still viable? The answer is probably yes, but robust anti hypersonic missile/ torpedo weapons systems need to be on hand. We are now in a new age of military technology. Like tanks being destroyed by drones, the carrier fleet will have to overcome these new threats.

The question then becomes, in a time of war, against a peer adversary, will these ships be able to survive and the second part is, can we sustain carrier repair and replacement in a rapid enough time to do replacement operations in a time of war.?

I do not know how they are gaming this out, But the time to find out is not when the bullerts start flying.

Bigus Macus said...

Back in the old Navy, in the 1980's it was common to see 9-month deployments.

Anonymous said...

"Like tanks being destroyed by drones"

Some of those videos are edited. Sometimes it takes several drones to take out a tank.

For confirmation of destruction, I like to see standoff footage with recognizable surrounding of the vehicle cooking off.

Bigus Macus said...

I seem to remember the IKE spending 11 months on station.

Anonymous said...

Today there will be over 309,000 Russian dead or wounded.

I was shocked. It was to be expected. The Russian dacha dwellers pushing assaults without tanks or AFVs. It could be no other way.


There area a few difference between Avdiivka and Bakhmut. Avdiivka is not as built up. Less places to hid from Ukrainian artillery. Ukrainian artillery is getting better compared to Russian artillery. Ukraine has cluster munitions now exactly like the Russians.

The Russian were driving troops to the front in circa 1932 trucks. What is next? Model T?

Anonymous said...

This morning, units of the 58th Motorized Infantry Brigade destroyed two RB-301B Borisoglebsk-2 automated electronic warfare systems. It is designed to suppress satellite communication systems and radio navigation systems. The cost of the complex is estimated at $200,000,000

Anonymous said...

8:11

Skods, 1932 year trucks? Come on buddy, you are better than that. Why not 1952's or 48s or throw in an occasional 77.

Anidivka is a wonderful place. Fully serviced underground facilities, dust falling from the ceiling due to loud sounds outside. They may even have running water? Who knows.

As I said last time, the Ukies have the Russians just about surrounded in Adeevka and the supply lines are cut by artillery fire. Or is it the other way around? I will have to check the map.

Any way the kids are pushing hard and I am sure that they are taking ground. I mean, they have to be Right? Because the 47th lost about half thier tanks and a bunch of armored vehicles and I under stand the nasty Russians shot down more of our aircraft, so the ukies must be progressing , right?

Come up with that plan yet?

Ukraine will be defeated.

later

Anonymous said...

Due to the lack of components, Russia is trying to get back the helicopter engines it previously sold to Belarus, Egypt, Pakistan and Brazil.

Russia is dying

Anonymous said...

In a video circulating on social media – what may be a truck introduced in the 1930s — can be seen driving along beaten tracks on the Avdiivka front.

Some users on “X,” the social media site formerly known as Twitter are saying that a viral video shows a GAZ-AA truck.

The GAZ-AA, based on the Ford Model AA, was manufactured in Soviet Russia between 1932 and 1938 under an agreement with Ford Motor Company in the US.


Bro (8:27) your lips must be getting sore. After every sucky day of nonperformance on the job you have to make up for it somehow. At least you are not yet a mobik.

Anonymous said...

Yea sure, Russia is dying, And you are channeling gozar and his buddy Goku.

Ukraine
will be defeated.

Anonymous said...

a video on social media shows you in a SS uniform with a SD diamond and a cuff band written with sonderkommando on it

Anonymous said...

I forgot

Ukraine will be defeated.

Anonymous said...

The Russian Army Is Running Out Of Trucks For Its War In Ukraine May 2022

It has only gotten worse.

I did say tanks matter, but they don't.

I also said I watch the truck count and it would be nice if they would break out fuel trucks from other trucks.

When the Allies pushed into Burma against the Japanese, they laid pipeline in the jungle. No way to sustain the offensive with trucks relaying on other trucks over those distances and over that terrain.

Russia pumps a lot of oil (enough) they have good pipeline. But to get oil from the last terminal to the units on or near the front line takes trucks. WNU said the Kremlinites wargamed out sanctions before the invasion. I believe him. Did the wargames include variables for trucks?

Supplying by trucks is a little bit, a whole lot like the rocket equation. Swaggerbutt are you a rocket scientist son?

Anonymous said...

Saw the film skods.....some reports say....yes , some reports like in 844 are out there too.

From that distance and the poor quality of film, you have n idea what modern or year the trucks are.

Ukraine will be defeated

Anonymous said...

What images of Russian trucks say about its military’s struggles in Ukraine

Here is the problem. Russia needs more tanks. Russia can expand its abilities to build tanks. I have no doubt. Neither do the chest thumpers.

The problem is how do you maximize overall effort when you have to allocate resources to build more tanks, AFVs, planes, helicopters, warships, ammo, missiles, kit and ... trucks?

Math and economics has an answer. But Math is hard. It is for Kremlinites and vatniks.

Anonymous said...

About SS insignia:

Since when have thunderbolts not been sexy?

It seems every Indo-European culture or tribe had a thunder god. The Slavic one (or a Slavic one) is Perun.


Russia will be defeated.

They do not have trucks.
They do not have kit.
They do not have food.
they do not have cool uniformns.

Vatniks harp on SS insignia so much they eschew Perun's symbology and go with pink triangles.

Anonymous said...

Skods

You have no idea what you are talking about old buddy. but me, am a logistics loving fool. Just remember

Erwin Rommel said

"Logisticians decide the battle before it even begins."

trucks are not the issue here, and if they truly were, the Russians would never have been able to keep those defenses around Robotyna supplied

Note that the ukies could not break thru there. A lot of equip and supplies need to be transported "DAILY" to support such an operation.

Russia running out of trucks?? you will know when you see them using civilian vehicles....like the ukies.



Ukraine will be defeated

Anonymous said...

After losing 200 armored vehicles, Russia is now likely forcing its troops to advance on foot in its effort to take Avdiivka, Ukraine, UK says

Soon they are going to have to rustle up some keyboard vatniks to fill out the ranks.

Anonymous said...

"trucks are not the issue here, and if they truly were, the Russians would never have been able to keep those defenses around Robotyne supplied"

It was the 70th west of Robotyne that said they were out of supplies.

Anonymous said...

A few Russians have been captured in Krynky on the left bank

They relate how the morale is low and they would all surrender if given the opportunity. The Russian propaganda about torture in Ukrainian captivity discourages many have their colleagues...

ALL OF THEM!

Anonymous said...

The cannon fodder has become self-aware.

Russia's 70th Regiment at the Zaporizhia front with a video appeal that their 80 surviving guys have only one vehicle and that "Ukrainian nationalists" are hitting them with modern weapons.

They urgently ask for equipment and drones.


But let the little brown people (Buryats) die, right vatnik?

They fight your war while you sit on your pasty white ass in Moscow

Anonymous said...

Skods

I do feel bad for the guys IF that is really happening to them.

BUT

You know better. One unit does not make a whole army. That is like saying one potato is rotten so throw out the truck load.

Ukraine will be defeated.

Anonymous said...

BREAKING Many Gazans are sharing this footages which appears to show a group of residents gunned down by Hamas police on the Al Rasheed beach road as they tried to flee south from the Israeli offensive and it triggers outrage among residents.


Russia backs Hamas

Anonymous said...

"You know better. One unit does not make a whole army"

But every Russian regiment at Robotyne has been chewed up and replaced. So bad that Pootie had to transfer precious VDV divisyon from Kupyansk to Robotyne.

... where it got chewed up.

Anonymous said...

"I do feel bad for the guys IF that is really happening to them."

No, you don't, it is why you allow you government to press gang or recruit more heavily in Buryatia and other places with little brown people.

Anonymous said...

"Its defence industry is increasing its output,"

You did not pay attention did you? Because math is hard

You have not done something as easy as the Purina dog food problem have you? So you have no idea, if the Russian MIC is doing the right thing or the wrong thing.

Anonymous said...

Skods

we were talking about truck support, not regiments. Stay focused.

So you admit now that the russians are not short trucks?

Also that link you sent about Hamas shooting civilians must have been more isreal propaganda. Because the story has disappeared. In a situation like this, when they pull stories it often times means the other side did it.

Like bucca..... First the city was reported clear of Russian forces and everything was said to be ok in town by the mayor. a day later AZOV rolled into town.

Three days later there is a massacre, they showed photos...too bad they did not take the arm bands off the dead , because the arm bands we're white. White as in Russian.. Old Azov, mopping u loose ends , Oskar Dirlewagner would be proud!! SLAVA bandera!!

Ukraine will be defeated.

Anonymous said...

Telenko describes one recent photo of tire damage on a multimillion-dollar mobile missile truck, a Pantsir S1, as the canary in the coal mine for Russia’s logistical efforts.

As such an expensive piece of equipment, he would have expected its maintenance to be first-rate. Yet its tires were crumbling just a few weeks into the war – what Telenko refers to as “a failure mode.”

For Telenko, who for more than a decade specialized in maintenance problems in the US military’s truck fleet, the condition of the Pantsir S1 is a revealing mistake.

“If you’re not doing (preventive maintenance) for something so important, then it’s very clear the entire truck fleet was treated similarly,” he says.


Russia is dying.

Anonymous said...

936

Skods you referencing my posted quote at 936

"Its defence industry is increasing its output,"

would you like t elaborate on that?

because what you said , says nothing.

Ukraine will be defeated.

Anonymous said...

"So you admit now that the russians are not short trucks?"

I admitted no such thing. And that went over you head. So far over your head it was like a planetary flyby and you never noticed.

Anonymous said...

"Its defence industry is increasing its output,"

In math, they use the terms necessary and sufficient. Maybe you ought to look that up.

Also, look at what Mark Esper had to say about the weapons supplied to the muj. He used one 3 letter word. It is in the book "Charlie Wilson's War"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Esper

My answer is straight forward and rather involved. I could make it easy. do I care? No. Why? Because you are a shit.

Any mobik convict or otherwise is worth more than you.

Anonymous said...

943

I can tell you right now, using one sample to judge a whole fleet is BS. Like I said. Log is Wonderfull.


the procedure would be

a. Talk to the crew and the Unit maintenance guys. Is it a one time problem or is it wide?

then if unit wide, you got a bigger problem.

You then escalate the investigation at least 2-3 units up.

If there is a consistency or trend with the problem , then you contact Big Army and report it. Big Army then does a service wide investigation usually with assistance the manufacturer's TECHs.

But like I said, basing your assumptions off of one machine...That is nuts.

That is like saying all posters on this blog are like skoda , after only reading one post!! :)

Ukraine Will be defeated.

Anonymous said...

You Russians never learn. As in the old Soviet days logistics was your Achilles heel.

All these articles from Spring 2022 about the dearth of trucking and here we are at the Avdiivka offensive. There is still a dearth of trucks.

What is the major hold up? could you not find any truck older than a 1932 model? Soon you will be like the Wehrmacht and be using horses and wagons supplying the rear guard as it retreats.

Nothing says the Russian MIC is keeping up like 1932 trucks shipping meat to the 1st or 2nd most important Soviet offensive.

Anonymous said...

Skods

This is your favorite Russian troll , vatnik and mobik saying farewell for now. Yes some of us do work, and as Unit Commissar of the 1st Rank. assigned to the Uglok salt mines, duty calls!!

But when I return I will expect full accounting of your blogging exploits and answer to the questions you have not answered

Don't be a chicken

Ukraine Will be defeated.

Have a great day.

Anonymous said...

Swaggerbutt is still counting tanks. What a maroon.

Better hurry up and become a mobik or you will miss your chance before Russia's defeat.

Just read a post. When 8 tanks , an UFV 6 artillery and lots soldiers get blown away in one area, you know the Russian commander is having a nervous breakdown. It is a slaughter. And it is free. Russians do not have to sig up. They just have to step up.

That is a big hole to plug. Get in there Swaggerbutt!

Anonymous said...

"The problem has gotten a whole worse. As the wider war in Ukraine enters its fourth week, the Ukrainian army and sister services have destroyed no fewer than 485 Russian trucks.

That’s more than a tenth of the trucks that belong to the Russian army’s 10 “material-technical support” brigades, which haul supplies, ammo and fresh troops from rail-heads to front-line formations."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/03/18/as-predicted-the-russian-army-is-running-out-of-trucks-for-its-war-in-ukraine/?sh=4a9da62e577c

It has only got worse since.


And there is Medvedev trying to look smart by visiting the tank factory time after time.

In the early 1990s he was well liked in the West. He went to the dark side.

Anonymous said...

"out more and more of the vehicles, was evident in the first 10 days of the invasion as Russia began transporting civilian vehicles into the war zone, probably in an effort to make up for losses of military trucks."

Anonymous said...

"The Russian army was never designed for operations very far from Russia’s land borders. Ukraine shares a border with Russia, of course, but Ukraine is a big country. Russian troops have penetrated no deeper than 50 or 60 miles into Ukraine while aiming for Kyiv in the north and Mykolaiv in the south, but even that seems to be too far for the Kremlin’s fragile logistical system."

Fragile, who does that remind me of? The guy who posts Skods all the time.

he is fragile. He quit a short time ago and went off on a huff.

Anonymous said...

"Whether the tally of destroyed supply vehicles is 500, 600 or 700, it’s a big blow to the Russian army. A material-technical support brigade has only around 400 trucks, and the entire army has only 10 of these brigades."

10 x 400 = 4,000

Of course Russia is building more. To date they have lost almost 10,000. They cannot keep up even with the "war footing".

Anonymous said...

After losing 200 armored vehicles, Russia is now likely forcing its troops to advance on foot in its effort to take Avdiivka, Ukraine, UK says

George Barros: "We can conclude now that this is by far the most costly Russian assault during three weeks for one city since the beginning of the war,"

The Russian Empire conducted meat assaults in the Caucasus. How did that go? If they had used brains instead of bulling there way through, maybe Armenia. Georgia and Azerbaijan would still be Russian.

Anonymous said...

Flashback

The Russian Cruiser ‘Moskva’ Dominates The Black Sea

That did not age well.

Anonymous said...

The economy is unfixable. The debt is unpayable. A world war will wipe the slate clean without holding the guilty accountable.

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