Thursday, July 17, 2014
Passenger Plane Shot Down In Ukraine. IDF Begins A Ground Operation On Gaza
WNU Editor: I am on the the phones with my contacts in both Ukraine and Russia. Will be providing updates on what my sources are telling me within the hour. Will also be providing an update on the Israel - Gaza war At 18:00 EST.
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Thank you i suspect the pro-Russians shot it down but thought it was a military air plane. But it can also be Ukraine trying a false flag operation. In the war between Hamas and Israel, Israel has started a ground offensive. What will this lead to?
My wife got this text today from our friend on the Kibbutz near Beersheba:
: No, we are safe here - although I was out running when a rocket fell nearby. I saw behind me a cloud of smoke and though to myself "that was close". I made sure that the security knew of the landing and carried on. Its a very surreal experience.....
My Russian sources are telling me that the rebels do not have Buk Missile systems in their arsenal and could not have shot down this plane with what they have ... but they also do not understand why one pro-Russian rebel commander is now taking credit for this attack.
On the flip side .... the Ukraine military is under a tight leash, and while they do have these missile battery systems in their arsenal .... and in the Donetsk region .... I doubt that they would have used it to shoot down a passenger jet even though a few hours before one of their own jet fighters was shot down by a Russian fighter jet. In short .... the Ukrainian air force rules the skies in this part of Donetsk .... why launch a missile into a zone where only your fighters are there.
Too many questions .... not enough answers. And while my gut is telling me that this plane was shot down by pro-Russian rebels .... what bothers me is that they do not have the hardware to pull this off. The only ones who could have done it are Ukrainian forces .... or Russian forces .... and I suspect that we may never know the true answer to who is responsible for this catastrophe.
No we cant get the answer the pro-Russians took the black box and i think its now in Moscow. I think its either the pro-Russians or Russia who did this. What will the consequences be? it was 23 US citizens on the ship, some from France, Germany and England. 9/11 invoked NATO article 5 can this do the same? There was many civilians from NATO countries so is the risk there? How will this influence the Ukrainian conflict? I also read that the pro-Russians have Buk missiles they captured some 29 June:http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_29/Donetsk-militia-takes-control-of-Ukrainian-anti-air-installation-1561/ source.
Mattathias ben Johanan .... war is always surreal .... until it is at your home. Stay safe.
Rhaegar .... I answered some of your questions on my 19:00 post. I have been very busy today ... I am only now catching up on my correspondence, news, and readings. Thank you for posting links and questions.
Thank you for answering my questions:).
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