Monday, May 21, 2018

Did North Korea Had A Plan Five Years Ago On How To Achieve Denuclearization?

Reuters/KCNA

Joel S. Wit, The Atlantic: What the North Koreans Told Me About Their Plans

I was one of a handful of former officials to meet with them when they were just developing their current strategy. Those talks offer the best information we have about how to achieve denuclearization.

What exactly do the North Koreans mean when they say they’re willing to denuclearize? And how exactly would they do so? These are the key mysteries at the heart of the upcoming Trump-Kim summit—and indeed they threatened to derail the whole thing this week when Kim Jong Un objected to National-Security Adviser John Bolton’s vision for it. In a statement attributed to Vice Foreign Minister Kim Kye Gwan, North Korea chastised Bolton for his invocation of the “Libya model” of unilateral denuclearization as a template, noting that the “world knows too well that our country is neither Libya nor Iraq which have met miserable [fates].” The White House quickly walked back Bolton’s remarks.

The exchange did little to clarify how the U.S. plans to achieve denuclearization. But for a group of former U.S. government officials who have been meeting with North Korean officials over the past decade, North Korea’s own plans are anything but hidden. A series of meetings with North Korean officials in 2013, which I attended along with other former U.S. officials, holds valuable clues—and they show that the North Koreans have given a great deal of thought to denuclearization and almost certainly have a concrete plan of action for the upcoming summit, whether the White House does or not.

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WNU Editor: What Joel S. Wit is outlining in his above post is actually old news. President Obama was also correct to say five years ago that what the North Koreans were proposing was just propaganda .... doubly so when the North Koreans later admitted that they would not permit inspections. The problem with the North Korean strategy is that they have strongly believed that having a nuclear deterrent and capability to strike U.S. targets with nuclear missiles would make the U.S. acquiesce to their demands. The opposite has occurred, and now North Korea is not only experiencing full sanctions .... but also the wrath of its neighbors. And while the above writer believes the North Koreans  have a concrete plan in their hands, I have a different take. The North Korean decision to cut ties with South Korea and break the DMZ understanding while threatening the U.S. is not a plan .... on the contrary .... it shows the North Korean regime to be erratic and untrustworthy .... and yes .... very dangerous.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

You keep forgetting China in this equation. Seems you just don't quite get what's happening here

Unknown said...

We have confounding variables:

- Will & strategy of the Chinese leadership
- North Korean leadership and factional fighting

We may not know how much influence the Chinese Leadership has with North Korea. Of course the Chinese leadership will lie about it.

It is not like we could run an experiment with replicates.

Keep the sanction on the North Korean until they fold or we go to war. It looked so good 3 weeks ago with signs of a peace treaty, but war is good.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/85597.Don_t_Step_in_the_Leadership

fred said...

War is good, says the non combatant...so what if we have 30 thousand Am troops close to N. K....war is good...sanctions? other nations have supplied stuff despite our sanctions, and it is clear that N.K. finds ways to circumvent sanctions. Not much we can do but we are not in a position at this time to begin another war.

Unknown said...

Fred,

Noncombatant? We both have campaign badges. Only my combat experience did not consist of point a gun at a ROK. Tough guy huh?

How far back in the rear were you, REMF?

The sanctions worked that is why Kim Jong Un came to the DMZ and agreed to summit. Now after time has passed Kim figures he can pull a Lucy. So it is best to keep the sanctions up.

It might be just like Linebacker I and Linebacker II. Only a wishy washy, lo T person like yourself wants to be Linebacker I and then give up.

Kim figures rightly when considering the Democrats. they chase after after one shiny object after another (like Russia). SO I give Kim his due; he has Dimocrats figured out.

Dims are talking about Russia, Russia, Russia hacking the DNC and the excrable asshats refuse to talk about the Awans. Dims give away everything for free. The Pakistani intelligence know everything that the Dims know. Pakistan's problem is sifting the truth from the delusions that Dims believe.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4704985/watch-debbie-wasserman-schultz-completely-sidestep-great-question-john-mcardle

"Imram Awan? But RUSSIA!" Debbie Blabbermouth-Shultz

fred said...

I was not in combat.Did have guns shooting at me while on duty. You sound like the president belittling McCain and calling him names because he got taken prisoner while in the calling of names did not note how often he skipped serving, using an excuse to avoid service.

We do not know Kim's plans. We speculate...and you, when not calling names, dumps on Dems non stop,while your trump is trying to avoid the encroaching evidence about Russian connection...you insult the Democrats while you adore a low IQ misfit, with how many women now suing, a guy who has thus far simply raised the hell out of the national deficit.
You do not seem to realize how utterly stupid your blanket name calling is to anyone who reads the shit you post...The 9/11 horror took place under...yes: GOP.

Unknown said...

George H.W. Bush had GWB skip service. I cannot prove it, but I am sure of it. That is why he served in a Texas Air National Guard. I do not blame the old man.

Now, your boy Senator Blumenthal served in the Marine Reserve (to avoid Vietnam) on the East Coast which was dangerous. All those young budding Democrats firebombing ROTC buildings and shooting pigs.

I know you you voted for Blumethal, while reviling GWB's service. Flying planes is inherently dangerous. Fighter craft are not designed to be as stable as cargo or passenger craft for starters. I am sure that you voted for Blumenthal because the (D) behind his name did not exceed your lexile level, while previously you followed Dan Rather with bated breathe and foaming mouth.

I have met two people who admitted they joined the service to avoid Vietnam and then made it career, I respected them. While they avoided initial risk, it is always the needs of the service. Your detailer can send you anywhere based on the needs to be filled.

I like how Blumenthal glossed over how he was a Vietnam Vet. Tet was over and we were drawing down.

I know form previous experience I would have hated both Trump and McCain when they were 18 to 22, McCain for much longer than that. McCain is especially galling because his appointment to the Naval Academy was secured for him. So yeah, I will bad mouth McCain. He deserves it.

The evidence of Russian Collusion is

- " In total, $145 million went to the Clinton Foundation from interests linked to Uranium One"
- " Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.


I do not remember Trump going to Orgy island to partake of underage girls like Bill Clinton. Bill's buddy, Epstein had to make payments to several young girls for being assaulted or deflowered.

How can Trump be low IQ? He has a business empire. If he was low IQ someone would have taken it from him. Try again and try to come up with answer not from a nickel machine.

9/11 happened in large part because of the Gorelick Wall. Then there is blubbering Bubba Clinton wringing his hands saying he had a shot at OBL, but did not take it because he was in the company of a UAE prince. For that alone Clinton should be run out of town. Want to prove that Gulf State Noble support jihad. Get to for one. Bubba Clinton refused.

You got shot at in Pusan?




https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/yes-the-clintons-should-be-investigated/2017/11/19/d88bb652-cb15-11e7-b0cf-7689a9f2d84e_story.html?utm_term=.0e7c6ec8fc21

Unknown said...

Fred,

Yes, it is the progressives, the Left, the liberals, the Democrats. They are just beyond dumb. We are talking negative IQ territory here.

Seems as though some tards do not want the summit because of ... Global Warming.

It is not as though North Korea had been shipping coal to China nonstop until the sanction occurred.

Yup, you cannot make this stuff up. Progressives are the gift that keeps on giving like herpes.

"Progressive Media: Trump/North Korea Summit Could Have ‘Negative Effect on Global Warming’ "

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/21/progressive-media-trump-north-korea-summit-could-have-negative-effect-on-global-warming/