NBC: McCain doesn't want Trump at funeral, friends tell White House
McCain, who has been battling brain cancer, and Trump have had a turbulent relationship. The senator wants Vice President Mike Pence to attend instead.
WASHINGTON — People close to Sen. John McCain have told the White House that the ailing Arizona Republican does not want President Donald Trump to attend his funeral and would like Vice President Mike Pence to come instead, a source close to McCain confirmed to NBC News.
McCain, 81, has been battling an aggressive form of brain cancer for nearly a year and is back home in Arizona after he underwent surgery last month for an intestinal infection.
The senator, the 2008 GOP presidential nominee, said in an audio excerpt this week of his forthcoming memoir, "I don't know how much longer I'll be here," according to a clip aired by NPR.
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Update #1: At His Ranch, John McCain Shares Memories and Regrets With Friends (New York Times)
Update #2: REVEALED: Brain cancer-stricken Senator John McCain, 81, does NOT want Trump at his funeral (Daily Mail)
WNU Editor: On the contrary this was one of his better decisions .... McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate (The Hill).
18 comments:
So it is official. McCain will relinquish his Senate seat, when thy pry it from his cold dead hands.
Ted Kennedy dying from brain cancer did not relinquish his Senate seat. Now McCain is following in his footsteps.
George Washington set a good precedent, when he limited himself to 2 terms as president.
McCain and Kennedy are setting bad precedents.
Look if they can do their job there's no issue here. Have you ever fallen ill like that? Hope you won't..and his personal beef with Trump is his business. Trump certainly acted like an ass. I enjoy Trump's Humor most of the time, but for someone who dodged the draft and then belittle McCain and suggesting he's not a war hero - a guy who spent years in Vietnamese prison camp after being shot done and who was famously tortured - during his time as a service man to his country- to belittle a man and his service like that was just one of the lowest points of Trump. I call it like it is.
Ive never seen fighter pilots as heroes just for being pilots. Being held captive for years is not war heroism in my eyes either. The Word hero has been watered down that soon everyone, even mechanics is considered Heroes.
Hans with no calluses on the hand must be easy to say
Palin was his only chance. He blew it because he brought a toy knife to a gun fight.
Then you gave some credance to a work of fiction as an unwitting collaborator to smeer Trump.
I thought you would have been better than Bush as president but now I dont think so.
HANS, Y0U PHUCKING MORON: THIS IS A HERO
In 1968, less than a year after his Navy bomber was shot down, the imprisoned McCain was abruptly offered unconditional release by the North Vietnamese, perhaps because his father had just been named the commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific. McCain was still badly crippled from his crash and the poor medical treatment that followed, yet he adhered to the P.O.W. code of honor and refused to be repatriated ahead of American prisoners who had been in captivity longer than he. His refusal was adamant. His guard told him, “Now, McCain, it will be very bad for you.” He was tortured for his defiance, and ultimately spent more than two years in solitary confinement. The abuse, combined with the after-effects of his injuries, left him physically marked. He could have avoided it all, but out of loya
McCain was a real he man. He was large and in charge.
He picked Palin and then he messed up on two accounts.
First, he let other men in his campaign go after her Left and right. Now, there is a manly thing to do.
Second, he could not keep the people of his organization under control. That is he let subordinates attack his chief subordinate whenever they wanted, which was often.
Is McCain a hero?
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/make-believe-maverick-20081016
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jan/17/mccains-pow-record-attacked/
Hans, Fred, Anon (all 5 of you),
This from a Rolling Stone article:
"I'm going to the Middle East," Dramesi says. "Turkey, Kuwait, Lebanon, Iran."
"Why are you going to the Middle East?" McCain asks, dismissively.
"It's a place we're probably going to have some problems," Dramesi says.
"Why? Where are you going to, John?"
"Oh, I'm going to Rio."
"What the hell are you going to Rio for?"
McCain, a married father of three, shrugs.
"I got a better chance of getting laid."
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/make-believe-maverick-20081016
Is McCain a hero, in this case I would say yes. Not only did he get shot down over Hanoi (broke both arms) but prior to the shoot down, he nearly died when his carrier had an accident and he jumped from his burning plane and escaped. His military career was somewhat a failure due to the fact that both his dad and grandfather were fleet admirals while he was only a Captain. That being said he was a lousy politician. He picked Palin ( who was a good choice) but didn't back her as his staff and the media destroyed her. He used his POW status, to squelch any criticism of his political decisions.
I struck a nerve here.
If the premise for being a hero is simply to get shot down and taken POW for you guys, OK fine. There are other empowering words for describing people who endure long captivities, but I would hardly use the word "hero."
What I am trying to imply is that what I would consider heroes are those who receive Medal of Honor's (or the equivalent in other countrys). There are numerous situations where firemen, police, civilians etc etc could be called heroes too. Just look at the incident at the train to paris 2015 where civilians (although 2 of the 5 had some military training) saved all those people from getting massacred.
But if you guys feel that you need to get butthurt when I'm not calling McCain a hero, lets just call all POW's in the world heroes and get on with it.
Stalin's view towards prisoners was straight forward .... "There are no Soviet prisoners of war, only traitors."
Order No. 270
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_No._270
Sir
Stalin the worst possible example to cite for who is and is not a hero. Why not next cite Mao?
Fact:I know a guy (now dead) who fought the Nazis in the woods, as Polish partisan, then went into Russian army, then got shipped to Siberia and years later freed...not nice
The Japanese thought better to take your own life than be captured. But that is NOT the way civilized nations even in wartime deal with those who have served their nation(s)
McCain, by any and all standards of our nation--The U.S. and the West--is a hero...any one who says otherwise should cite their own heroic acts to show how they are but others are not
Lt Col Dramesi seems to have been in the same predicament as McCain and yet seems to have held up better.
He was near death, too, and yet didn't do what McCain did.
The Chinese ostracized their prisoners of war. And then there is Israel's "Hannibal Directive" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive
Everyone has a different policy and approach when it came to their prisoners of war. But historically speaking .... with the exception of certain countries in the West .... prisoners were usually not viewed as heroes.
Hans, in the criminal Vietnam war there may have been acts of bravery in certain situations but acts of heroism were only evident by those protesting the war, especially the kids in Kent State.
Hey, I'm not at all trying to get political here. I'm just trying to portray on what I believe and think is heroism and what is not. I do not care about this McCain character, I'm sure he is a nice guy. All I know is that he got shot down during a bombing run, broke a lot of bones everywhere and spent the rest of the war in misery. I've seen many documentaries about the vietnam war, the recent one is the Ken Burns series. Some of them covers what McCain (and others) went thru and I've always found it amazing how they survived. But it never struck me as heroism. The pilot heroes I come to think about in that war was the medivac crews; flying low, in bad weather conditions, often under heavy enemy fire and some of the missions were considered "suicide missions" (they had to volunteer for them) to save wounded fellow human beings or just evac the fallen. Many of them died doing this. There are many cases where extraordinary bravery played out in Vietnam in all branches, but being a hero for just getting captured and sitting out the rest of the war as a POW..? Nah. Not to me.
The protest were set up the SDS, which had been around since 1905 (Intercollegiate Socialist Society).
The SDS was engaged in communist agitation.
The SDS were or are not as smart or as moral as say Iranian students.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_a_Democratic_Society
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