Tuesday, August 27, 2019

Beijing's Options On Hong Kong


Michael Shoebridge, The Strategist: Beijing is manufacturing the circumstances to justify brutal intervention in Hong Kong

Scenes of protesters with sticks chasing police through Hong Kong streets and police officers pulling out their guns and pointing them at protesters show that the Hong Kong authorities are losing control of the city. And that’s probably just what leaders in China want the world to see at this point.

Beijing manages internal dissent ruthlessly and adeptly. Step one is to identify and isolate critical voices and individuals before they have a chance to gather support or join together. That’s where the massive internal security apparatus of the Ministry of Public Security and Ministry of State Security, enabled by high-tech surveillance systems fed by government and corporate data, come in.

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4 comments:

Anonymous said...

China has never controlled Hong Kong.
Hong Kong has always been controlled by the British, it was after all founded as a British colony. If China sends in the military, i would personally consider it an invasion by China against the United Kingdom.

This would open up the world to further aggressive actions by China on the western world.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 346

Wtf are you talking about ?UK gave back Hong Kong to China and have had 0 control over it since then. Have you ever been to Hong Kong? Please don't talk then, you're spewing nonsense

1. China controls Hong Kong, not UK not US not anyone else
2. The people in Hong Kong - those who grew up under British freedom, and their children who know of this other way, the western way- a more free way- are scared of the tightening grip China has on them.
3. They are scared because of what they know life in mainland is like. Again. Have you been? Then again please don't talk about stuff you don't know

For all those who want to know from someone who actually has been to Hong Kong, to mainland China and so on, this is what's up:


The people in Hong Kong - those who know our way of life, they want our way of life, or at least a less party controlled way of life than on mainland. They don't want the Chinese "obedient" citizen points program. They don't want to live in fear not to be able to speak out our be critical of the regime.

they saw first hand what happened to the book dealers who had some party critical books. You have to keep in mind Hong Kong is a small city state. A bit like Singapore perhaps. Not that big of a place. And when the book sellers got abducted a couple years back it was major news in Hong Kong because the way it happened. These book sellers didn't appear back for weeks and some were apparently tortured. The Chinese are famous for their sleep deprivation chambers. Do you know? Want to know? Here's how it works: say you are a book dealer. You get thrown in there on minimal food and you only get sleep when you agree to stop selling books and go on camera to apologise. Doesn't sound that bad right? Have you ever gone 2-3 days without sleep? My max was 3 days when I was 18 or so. It's easy when you're 18. But. .once you hit a certain age, just two days and your body is all weak. these book sellers were in their 50s. Some of them apparently had to stay for weeks. And you don't get a nice sofa. You get a stone bench. And you cannot close your eyes or sirens go on and the dogs and wardens come to wake you up. Dozens of time a day you micro sleep for a minute. And you get craziest nightmares. Your body aches. the wardens scream at you, intimidate you with the dogs and they threaten you. I would break after 4-5 days. I'm sure. It is beyond horrible. Some people die of weak hearts. A mixture of being scared, not sleeping. .your body needs sleep when you're above 20.it really does. If you don't get sleep for days you will be short of breath just sitting. It is lethal to anyone above 40 I would say after 4/5 days. Some stayed weeks. Some didn't come back.


The people in Hong Kong know some of it. That's why they are scared they saw one of the book dealers being pulled in front of TV cameras. The people and his customers and neighbours who knew him saw through the makeup. They will never forget. That's why it's a natural uprising.

Now I hope you know a bit more and think before you post. Thank you

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Roger Smith said...


Anon:8:59AM,

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there an agreement between Britain and china before Britain pulled out? And didn't this agreement specify certain freedoms the Hong Kong people were to enjoy as a result of the pullout?