Redfield responded on social media Wednesday evening, where he appeared to bow to pressure from the president insisting 'I 100% believe in the importance of vaccines'
Daily Mail: CDC director walks back Senate testimony that masks work BETTER against COVID-19 than vaccines after Donald Trump called him 'confused' and 'mistaken' and dismissed his claims a vaccine will NOT be available until next year
* CDC Director Robert Redfield told a Senate committee Wednesday face masks are better protection against COVID than a vaccine
* He also testified a vaccine wouldn't be widely available until Q2 2021
* Donald Trump hit back saying the CDC head was 'confused', 'made a mistake' and must have 'misunderstood' the question being asked of him
* 'No, the mask is not more important that the vaccine,' Trump said, telling reporters he called Redfield to set him straight
* Redfield responded on social media Wednesday evening after Trump's call
* He appeared to bow to pressure from the president insisting 'I 100% believe in the importance of vaccines'
* The top virologist clarified he meant the current 'best defense' against the virus is masks and other 'mitigation efforts' while there is no vaccine
CDC Director Robert Redfield has walked back his Senate testimony that masks work better against COVID-19 than vaccines, after Donald Trump called him 'confused' and 'mistaken' and dismissed his claims a vaccine will not be available until next year.
Redfield told a Senate committee Wednesday 'this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine' and said a vaccine wouldn't be widely available to Americans until the second quarter of 2021.
Hours later Trump hit back at Redfield saying the CDC head was 'confused' and must have 'misunderstood' the question being asked of him.
The president said he had called Redfield to set the record straight and said the CDC boss had agreed he 'answered that question incorrectly' about the masks.
Redfield responded on social media Wednesday evening, where he appeared to bow to pressure from the president insisting 'I 100% believe in the importance of vaccines and the importance in particular of a #COVID19 vaccine'.
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WNU Editor: The mainstream media is piling on President Trump .... Trump disputes CDC head's vaccine timeline and mask claims (CNN). But the CDC Director was wrong. We need a vaccine (or vaccines) to ultimately defeat/minimize this disease, and fortunately a great deal of progress is being reported. Until vaccines are manufactured and distributed .... which I am being told will happen soon .... wearing a mask is necessary. Why the CDC Director could not say this during the hearing baffles me, but he is saying it now.
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the main issue: Trump claims the vaccine will be ready a lot sooner that CDC says. Which to believe. Why?
Redfield had said earlier that day it's possible vaccine doses would be available in November or December, but in limited supply.
"If you're asking me 'When is it going to be generally available to the American public?' so we can begin to take advantage of vaccine to get back to our regular life, I think we're probably looking at third, late-second quarter, third quarter 2021," Redfield told the Senate Appropriations Committee.
But Trump didn't like the timeline, bluntly telling reporters just hours later in a White House press briefing: "That's incorrect information."
The president said he even called the CDC director, a political appointee, after the Senate hearing to talk about it.
"I think he just made a mistake. He just made a mistake. I think he misunderstood the question probably," Trump said.
But the timeline laid out by Redfield is one widely cited by other health officials, and it's never been disputed.
Lets just concentrate on wearing effective masks when going indoors, stop wearing homemade masks and wear cheap disposable 3 ply surgeon masks. There's too much faith in the "mask" crowd that are wearing ineffective masks that no next to nothing.
The main issue is that Redfield is no longer a scientist but has been in management for so long that he is a literal idiot and this article proves it.
Further this article calls into question if Redfield is purposefully sabotaging his boss.
It also calls into question Redfield's fitness as a manager. What risk is he willing to accept?
1%, .1%, .0001% or 0%?
If Redfield is not willing to accept any risk, he is not a leader/manager with scientific acumen.
If Redfield does not accept any risk at all, then maybe the virus strain is not that bad. May be accepting no risk is the correct way to go, since the virus is not that virulent.
I have an octogenarian relative teaching public school the whole semester. Obviously, the risk has been determined to be low by them. May be Redfield know the disease burden is low ans therefore wants to accept no risk with the vaccine.
that you have elderly relative teaching at this time is hardly an example of rational behavior. First, we should know where and what are the stats for that area; then, what measures the school is taking. Since the elderly are the ones most likely to die from the virus, a relative that old is plain stupid to be exposing herself to potential virus/death
Redfield not a leader but Trump, who refuses to wear a mask and allows his followers to go without them is an example of leadership? wow.
It was the CDC that said that children do not pass corona. Which kind of begs the question. Who gave the kids the COVID? Only an adult?
Relative has no co-morbid conditions like the typical Democrat voter such obesity, diabetes, hypertension, etc.
I am not particularly happy with the decision, but there is not much I can do other than offer advice like to take vitamins C & D and also to take zinc. I also stressed in keeping fasting blood sugar below a threshold. High blood sugar levels seem to be a factor.
As to possible death: Maybe a COVID death is better and cleaner than a death by a BLM/ANTIFA/Democrat. Some Grifter class Democrat leaders wargamed out the election. Podesta played the part of Biden. It is not like Biden could. In the instance that Trump won, they were going to use the leverage of more unrest unless Trump agreed to abolish the electoral college and other Democrat thug demands.
Assuming that the virus is not engineered or not engineered with greatly different DNA/RNA inside the shell. Maybe COVID is not out of the ordinary. Maybe flu deaths in the 50's and 60's were in fact COVID and not influenza. It is not like they did a lot of assays for that sort of thing back in the day. So there might not be anything novel about this strain of COVID other than people saying it is novel.
Maybe those samples they dug up in Nome, Alaska form Eskimos that died in 1918 could also be tested for COVID. Who knows it could have been a 1 2 combo. It is a theory and you cannot refute it without testing.
Elderly people, who are 105 and 109, have survived it. The typical elderly that die of COVID are those that are in a LTC because they already have problems. If you ask Why once, then you would say elderly is a big risk factor, If you ask why more than once, then not so much
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no thinking person will take what you say seriously when you make such stupid statements about an entire huge group of people, ie the Democratics in our nation.
Yes. those with illnesses are prone to die from the virus. And yes, smokers and diabetics and those with asthma etc die of it, no matter the age. Or party affiliation.
7 people died from catching the virus at a wedding in Maine. Marriages are deadly.
The above postings explain why I ignore the virus. Nonetheless there are some common sense steps I take. One is based on a decades old observation of what comes out of my mouth when I speak; especially the letter "T" and others wherein the tongue contacts the roof of my mouth. Having observed this many years ago, I think a mask that prevents saliva dispersal via speech is courteous to others so I wear one when shopping. Being out of saliva "bombardment range" is another. I have always been a hand washer because of what used to be taught in school and the classes I took.
I also am not a heavy eater, no sweets or sweetened items beyond honey I gather from my bees. Well...there is a bit of dark chocolate now and then. Drink milk twice or more a day {vitamin D} and light on fats.
At 75 I can still easily jump up and click my heels, squat down like the Vietnamese I used to see, and run away from them wimminz after my money.
That's it. In a nutshell.
" people died from catching the virus at a wedding in Maine. Marriages are deadly."
"Now people who have no association with the party have died, including six residents of the Maplecrest Rehabilitation and Living"
Story is confusing. But of course it is. It was written by a journalist.
So are only 58 people alive out of the wedding party and the 6 deaths out of the nursing home a re and extra 6 on top of the 7?
Or are the 6 nursing home deaths part of the 7 deaths?
When a reporters on the radio announce a new corona death in fashionable 1984 manner, I want to know 3 things; age. LTC or not LTC, and underlying condition. Actually, I want to know 4 things, I want to know the name of the nursing home so I can compare track records among nursing homes, which may or may not be fair.
So 6 people at a nursing home died and ...? You know the average length of stay at a nursing home? It is not long. So I really do not know how any QALY was lost. Neither do you. QALY is a fair way of looking at things. It has been since Rahm Emanuel's brother used it for Obama care and Obama told a woman that she should forget about medical care and give her 90 year old mother 2 aspirin and call the coroner in the morning. Obama is a swell guy.
I'll make the statement against Democrats that I wish. Any party that will get in bed with Sorors, back BLM & ANTIFA, abrogate the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments. Abuse the amendments that freed the slaves. Close down the economy and murder people for political gain and run a a guy with dementia deserves ridicule and rebuke.
What is you next trick? Teach Biden how to stand up and beg like a dog or run an actual corpse for office?
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" I think a mask that prevents saliva dispersal via speech is courteous to others so I wear one when shopping. Being out of saliva "bombardment range" is another. I have always been a hand washer because of what used to be taught in school and the classes I took.
I also am not a heavy eater, no sweets or sweetened items beyond honey I gather from my bees. Well...there is a bit of dark chocolate now and then. Drink milk twice or more a day {vitamin D} ..."
Agree about the saliva and bombardment range and hand washing and mask as a courtesy.
Wearing a ask is better than getting hassled. Also it eases other's mind putting them under less stress. Although I have seen a lot of improper mask and non-mask usage ion several states. So people claiming masks did the trick in beating the virus, I say not so fast. The actual rate of wearing them or wearing them properly is not that high.
"At 75 I can still easily jump up and click my heels, squat down like the Vietnamese I used to see,"
Squat like an Asian? You are tough and flexible. I almost thought you had be taught that from birth. Myself, I am not going to try and crash.
I lost an Uncle and Aunt this summer, both of them in the same nursing home, both of natural causes, both in isolation with very little contact with family and friends. I know it's terrible to die of the coronavirus, but the crushing weight of being locked down during this pandemic is also just as tragic, especially for the elderly.
Give me liberty. Or give me covid19.
Some people are familiar with balancing equations or stoichiometry.
What we have to do with COVID is balance "deaths from COVID" with "deaths from suicide" due to isolation or job loss. We have to balance the economy against flu/COVID season.
IMO and I think it is born out, Democrat leaders are balancing all deaths against the lectoral win loss column.
However, the basic psychology and inability of the person and the mass society to deal with the situation are the major factors behind these COVID-19 suicides pandemic.
Still going with the Panic Porn, man, death rates way down but still talk as if this is the black plague or Ebola.
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