Zero Hedge: Who The Public Thinks Bears Responsibility For The Taliban Takeover?
A poll by CBS and YouGov shows that most Americans think the Afghan government and army carry a great share of the responsibility for the Taliban takeover, but, as Statista's Katharina Buchholz notes below, many survey participants also put considerable blame on Presidents Biden and Trump.
A quarter of Americans believe that former President Donald Trump carries a lot of the responsibility for Afghanistan falling back to the Taliban before the withdrawal of U.S. troops was even complete.
In February 2020, Trump and the Taliban had signed an agreement to withdraw all U.S. and NATO troops in 2021.
Current President Joe Biden, who followed through with the commitment, was seen as having a lot of responsibility for the developments in Afghanistan by 36 percent of respondents, signaling that a good amount of people believe he shouldn’t have heeded his predecessor’s pledge.
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WNU editor: This CBS/YouGov poll was taken last week. A lot has happened since then, with the scope on the Afghan debacle accelerating in the past few days.
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While allot has definitely happened in the past week, the people polled do seem to have had a relative good understanding. The primary fault is with the Afghans themselves. It does seem clear the US and it's allies mismanaged the redeployment to a large degree but after a poor start on this seem to be recovering with regards to getting people out.
It also seems the US and it's allies especially the US overestimated the will and the ability of the Afghan military and the Afghan government. As to why this happened, I do not know for certain but I think it has its roots in ideology. After investing so much time and energy on trying to help Afghans it was probably hard for some people to admit these were not good allies.
Allot of military equipment was left behind. Obviously should the Taliban misuse it the US military will destroy it along with those who misuse it.
This could have easily happened on Trumps watch. It didn't, it happened on Biden's watch. Had it happened on Trump's watch, we'd get a very different spin on it for sure:
The media would blame him *solely* for it, rather than the divide that we see currently.
The WNU editor here would have been an 'apologist' for Trump, citing various reasons why he's not to blame and the Afghan government is purely at fault.
It's amusing, but also sad.
25% of people have an IQ under 70.
I think we're witnessing the planned collapse of the judeo Christian western world to usher in the great reset
Everything points to it
The attack on the nuclear family through BLM, backed by mega corporations
The world economic forum openly declares a neoMarxist future by 2030, and they say this is the only way forward, according to them and their wishes for the future in which you own nothing and are a slave with no privacy
The attacks on the courts by antifa
The critical race theory to promote racial war or at least tensions
The attack on the lower and middle class to make you dependent on the state
The CDC attacking the 3rd amendment and unconstitutionally putting edicts forward that that they have no business doing
The trillions missing through corruption(if you need a motive aside from wanting to rule us like untouchables)
The upcoming AI robotics automation wave that'll hit us
The destruction of your economy throug the lockdowns
The constant lies
The indoctrination of your children through schools and universities
The censorship and corporate fascist way how it's done
The attack on churches and the first and second amendment
The attack on meritocracy and everything our forefathers built. They want to replace it all and to replace it you must not want to fight for it or defend it. So you're programmed to accept the racism narrative.
The conditioning of you to call everyone who criticizes the current vaccines(not all vaccines) as anti-vaxxer
The cancel culture and attack mobs directed at anyone speaking out.. backed and allowed by your and my government
The attack on individual liberties, human rights and bodily autonomy. To be replaced with collective rights, equity and all that.
This is a plan decades in preparation and you better start fighting before it's too late. They'll kill you.
Lapides self indentifying!
"25% of people have an IQ under 70."
That does not look quite like a Fred quote.
Whoever is trying to get a rise or they have no clue what a normal distribution is.
"About 95 percent of all IQ scores are between 70 and 130"
https://sciencetrends.com/iq-scale-iq-charts-by-age/
www.iqcomparisonsite.com/IQtable.aspx
Anon (3:50AM),
I believe your first two paragraphs are 100% spot on. At the end of the day, Trump would have been depending upon US Intel to assess the situation regarding the redeployment and the Afghan government would have collapsed just as quickly regarding who POTUS is.
It does seem as though the editor has been more nuanced in his critique of the Trump Administration than he has been of the Biden Administration. For that matter, I have very likely held back on critique of the Trump Administration when I should have been more critical so our editor is not alone here!! I will say perhaps I've missed it. I do not wish to be overly harsh to the editor or anyone else. Since the editor is not pro-Biden perhaps his critique has bordered on assigning to much of the blame to team Biden and would have been more nuanced had Trump been in office. Given how this could have happened regardless who was in office had they pursued the redeployment option, it would probably be a good idea for Trump supporters and those opposed to Biden to hold off on over the top hysterical attacks of the Biden Administration right now and work together to find constructive ways forward.
Under Trump Bagram would not have been abandoned so early. The retiring general abandoned it as a favor to Biden.
Son once again we have the Russian cur pipe up.
It's not Fred, but it's his position.
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